Wood burner or more practical spending?

hethmar

beetle - read my post above though - make sure you are getting a bona fide job done - if we could do 2 jobs a day at £800 a day with no need for storage or stock costs, we would be rolling in money!

beetlebum_2

On Saturday I'm having a liner installed. I'm having the old gas liner removed, chimney swept and then new liner installed along with a new pot for £350 all in. I'm supplying the liner, the insert and rain guard. He's supplying the top plate and bracket as well. This has taken me so long to find someone to do it for a decent price.

hethmar

As long as you get the HETAS certificate and data plate as required by law now. What insulation is he using - that would cost a lot alone. Is he taking off the pot and using a clamp or just hanging the whole weight from a DIY pot hanger? What material is he using for the register plate? how is he supporting the liner above it? What stove pipe? adaptor? top insert?

Good luck.

beetlebum_2

hethmar wrote: »

As long as you get the HETAS certificate and data plate as required by law now. What insulation is he using - that would cost a lot alone. Is he taking off the pot and using a clamp or just hanging the whole weight from a DIY pot hanger? What material is he using for the register plate? how is he supporting the liner above it? What stove pipe? adaptor? top insert?

Good luck.

Hi Hethmar,

Well all he is doing is installing the liner for me. The burner is going to be installed at a later date. He does know what he's doing as he is HETAS registered. By doing it this way, I'm able to spread the cost of the installation.

hethmar

Well, I hope it all goes well - have you asked him how he will install - what insulation and so on?. Make sure you get a HETAS certificate from him and that he registers it with HETAS (they will then register with local authority) and the Data Plate with all the details of the system and his registration. Im surprised you could find a bona fide registered installer at such quick notice - all those we know are booking for Feb and March at the moment. (Watch out for the difference between people who are "registered" and those who are "approved" - sometimes even sweeps are "approved" but wont be registered and cant "sign off" with your cert).

I dont really understand about it saving you money as actually fitting the appliance is a throw in as far as we are concerned, we dont charge if its on site. Do you mean he is going to charge you more to fit it? Keep your liner warranty.

beetlebum_2

hethmar wrote: »

Well, I hope it all goes well - have you asked him how he will install - what insulation and so on?. Make sure you get a HETAS certificate from him and that he registers it with HETAS (they will then register with local authority) and the Data Plate with all the details of the system and his registration. Im surprised you could find a bona fide registered installer at such quick notice - all those we know are booking for Feb and March at the moment. (Watch out for the difference between people who are "registered" and those who are "approved" - sometimes even sweeps are "approved" but wont be registered and cant "sign off" with your cert).

I dont really understand about it saving you money as actually fitting the appliance is a throw in as far as we are concerned, we dont charge if its on site. Do you mean he is going to charge you more to fit it? Keep your liner warranty.

I had to twist his arm a bit to do just the liner which I am supplying. I'm not ready to have the wood burner put in yet, due to my fireplace needing some work doing. I need to enlarge the height of the opening and plaster the bare brick along with putting a hearth in. With regards to the hearth, would normal floor tiles suffice (assume I make the 12mm thickness required for building regs. The burner is rated 56C floor temperature).

Also, can you tell me why register plates are so expensive to buy? Stovesonline want inexcess of £100 for one. So I'm going to get an offcut of steel from work and fabricate my own.

Thanks for your replies. I bet you think us DIYer are a real pain in the .....

hethmar

Well to be honest beetle, if you think about how all this is adding up not to mention the time you will be spending do some of the work yourself, you could probably had the lot done for little more.And you are doing all the running around and buying the stuff. I am just concerned that you will have problems further down the line and no comeback if the guy doesnt register the job properly. Honestly, we go out to several every year who have had this sort of thing done and get real problems and they just have to bite the bullet and have the lot done again.

Youve paid, what £300 for the 904? £350 for this guy? Your reg plate is £100, the other bits at least £100 - then you need to get it certified and connected plus fitted and you should add on insulation materials. All in all, what was that quote you got for £1200 - I think you will end up paying at least that? It would seem that was a good deal if the man was a recognised installer. You could have sat back while they did all the running round, the sweating to get it all fitted properly and just had to enjoy the fire when they had finished.

Galvanised steel is what you need for the reg plate.

beetlebum_2

Well the quote of £1200 was a rough one over the phone based on 8M of liner, when infact I need 10M. I'm sure it would have been a couple hundred more if he came out and priced it up. Not only that, he probably wouldn't have been able to have it done until the new year. Anyway, I'm happy doing it this was as it spreads the cost via credit cards and can get it done at my own pace. I see where you're coming from though. I'm also a very hands on type of person whol likes doing thing myself and learning new things too. So far, it's been quite educational.

hethmar

Well, anyone worth their salt in the business would have been booked up since September for Christmas at least. We are currently booking March and thats after turning away a lot of work as we didnt want people to thave to wait that long when they had no other form of heating.

beetlebum_2

Just thought I would follow up and say my wood burner is now fully up and running and had the BCO round to sign it off. To sum things up; I'm glad I done the DIY install, a) as it saved me money, which in effect made my wood burner FOC, b) I got it installed quicker and at my own pace, c) didn't have to have a stranger(s) in my house all day doing it. I must say, it has been a most interesting project along with a tight fit, as the fireplace apeture was quite small.

I certainly couldn't have done this without various peoples help on these forums and the Internet in general, so thanks to you guys.

Now all I need to do is finish up cutting up the 50 remaining pallets I brought home last week.