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Panorama: Can't Pay, Won't Pay

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  • bert&ernie
    bert&ernie Posts: 1,283 Forumite
    both mate! Snorting crack on a credit card maybe..... :beer:
    Thanks, I get so confused.
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
  • bert&ernie
    bert&ernie Posts: 1,283 Forumite
    oops sorry, didn't mean to interrupt your handbag fight. As you were...
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
  • duggie1982
    duggie1982 Posts: 717 Forumite
    edited 8 July 2009 at 10:25PM
    PROLIANT wrote: »
    Bunch of d|ck heads,
    You think your little words of criticism bother me in any way? You are severely miss-guided.
    uktyler wrote: »
    NID victorious in not answering the question. Where is the proof of a bank forcing a loan on anyone?

    I'm not talking making them an offer of money, or tempting them, I'm asking for proof.

    Show me the proof please, show me a person forced into borrowing money.



    You's have went from several questions now down to one!

    Lets face it. People have various situations were principle is the same they are 'forced' to take a loan. Some for example having to do this or they could, I don’t know avoid bankrupt of their business. Just one example (may not be the best) but the principle is the same. Some people feel forced or feel like they are forced into signing a loan deal when they really don’t want to. What their reasons for this may differ but still the same thing just like payment protection schemes.
  • oscar52
    oscar52 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    uktyler wrote: »
    NID victorious in not answering the question. Where is the proof of a bank forcing a loan on anyone?

    I'm not talking making them an offer of money, or tempting them, I'm asking for proof.

    Show me the proof please, show me a person forced into borrowing money.

    I can show you proof.... a certain bank told me I was now unable to pay off my long standing overdraft as my account had been closed, and that my ONLY option was to take a loan....
    No Longer works for MBNA as of August 2010 - redundancy money will be nice though.

    Proud to be a Friend of Niddy.
    no idea what my nerdnumber is - i am now officially nerd 229, no idea on my debt free date
  • duggie1982
    duggie1982 Posts: 717 Forumite
    uktyler wrote: »
    The key point here is the use of the word 'feel'. No one has a gun to their heads forcing them to sign. People need to take responsibility for their actions. No one is forced to borrow, it is a choice.

    Some people are 'forced' depending on their circumstances. Although yes I dare say no one has had a gun to their head (that I know of).
  • oscar52
    oscar52 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    uktyler wrote: »
    No it was not. You could of defaulted, talked to a debt charity or come to a payment arrangement.

    the BANK told me a LOAN was my only option. No arrangements to pay

    Yes, I could have defaulted, but there are consequences of that.

    I could have spoken to CCCS, CAB et al but as stated above, no arrangements, your account is closed, the ONLY option is a loan.
    No Longer works for MBNA as of August 2010 - redundancy money will be nice though.

    Proud to be a Friend of Niddy.
    no idea what my nerdnumber is - i am now officially nerd 229, no idea on my debt free date
  • oscar52
    oscar52 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    duggie1982 wrote: »
    no one has had a gun to their head (that I know of).

    Funnily enough thats EXACTLY what the bank said when I complained.:rotfl:
    No Longer works for MBNA as of August 2010 - redundancy money will be nice though.

    Proud to be a Friend of Niddy.
    no idea what my nerdnumber is - i am now officially nerd 229, no idea on my debt free date
  • ~Brock~
    ~Brock~ Posts: 1,715 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    oscar52 wrote: »
    I can show you proof.... a certain bank told me I was now unable to pay off my long standing overdraft as my account had been closed, and that my ONLY option was to take a loan....

    I've kept out of this rather childish game of point scoring, but must take exception at that so called proof............the example you give is simply moving money you have already spent - not forcing more money onto you.
  • duggie1982
    duggie1982 Posts: 717 Forumite
    uktyler wrote: »
    No it was not. You could of defaulted, talked to a debt charity or come to a payment arrangement.

    Well some people have got no other way as a default can be devastating to their credit file or otherwise.
  • oscar52
    oscar52 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    ~Brock~ wrote: »
    I've kept out of this rather childish game of point scoring, but must take exception at that so called proof............the example you give is simply moving money you have already spent - not forcing more money onto you.

    True, but I could have still paid money to my account rather than be forced into the loan. The laon was actually at a higher interest rate than the unauthorised overdraft rate on the account.
    No Longer works for MBNA as of August 2010 - redundancy money will be nice though.

    Proud to be a Friend of Niddy.
    no idea what my nerdnumber is - i am now officially nerd 229, no idea on my debt free date
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