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Gaggia Coffee Deluxe Machine Cheapest on Internet

I have found this coffee machine for 165.00 pounds at Italy Outlet . Its 199.00 from Amazon . Has anyone found this machine cheaper ??? I would love to know?This included delivery full gaggia warranty & free coffee :xmastree: :xmassign:
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  • RufusA
    RufusA Posts: 939 Forumite
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    Have you considered a reconditioned machine direct from Gaggia. Possibly not worth it if only saving £20 or so from the Italy Outlet price.

    http://www.gaggia.uk.com/gaggshop1.htm

    Postings on alt.coffee usenet group seem to imply that the reconditioned machines are supplied as new. Only downside is that they only come with a 12 month warranty.

    If you want to save money you might also want to consider the Carezza. By all accounts the same internals as the Coffee Deluxe, so should make a similar standard of espresso. However it doesn't have the same look as its more expensive sibling.

    Hope you've got a decent burr grinder on order as well.

    HTH - Rufus (hmmm - espresso!)
  • Rufus-which of those espresso makers is the best value per £ ? Is it the espresso Black or the deluxe?
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  • RufusA
    RufusA Posts: 939 Forumite
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    The only difference (apart from colour) between the Espresso and the Espresso Deluxe model is the steam arm. So unless you want frothy milk go with the cheaper model.

    You can buy the Pannerello Frother on it's own for around £12 from Gaggia site. Many suggest that Gaggia's aren't good at froth out the box, and fancy frother which draw in milk are an abomination! Try searching on alt.coffee for info on froth and replacing frothers with those from other makes.

    I drink my espresso black as God intended, who'd want to put something from a lactating cow in it!

    Rufus.
  • manhattan
    manhattan Posts: 1,461 Forumite
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    i too am looking at buying a gaggia.
    i was considering the classic model,but as xmas has cost a fortune i was wondering if any of you guys know if the gaggia cubika is worth considering?
  • Can I just add my 2p worth here! We treated ourselves to a Gaggia Classic a couple of years ago, it replaced a smaller machine, however, unless you are going to constantly - and I mean 5/6 times a day, run the machine, it takes too long to heat up, run hot water through it so it's really hot enough, and then make coffee. I agree, it isn't the best for frothing milk, it can't keep up with the coffee output - so, we've sold it and are buying smaller Gran Gaggia and a separate frother - a friend has this set-up and you have 2 pieces of kit which are both built for their own job and work much better. They also take up less room!

    Don't get me wrong, the Classic makes a superb espresso, but it was too much messing about to get capuccino's for a dinner party for say 8 - which was our main hope for it as we have people around quite a bit.

    Hope this helps!

    p.s. Definitely invest in a burr grinder!
  • RufusA
    RufusA Posts: 939 Forumite
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    AFAIK the Cubika and Gran Gaggia aren't *real* Gaggias. They have cheaper Saeco internals in a fancy case.

    The Cadezza and Espresso Black both are true Gaggias and are a similar price to the Cubika.

    If you are interested in the Classic (with a solenoid valve) then there is also the cheaper Baby which also has a solenoid. Whether having a three way solenoid valve is worth the extra is down to personal preference. Both types of machine make a similar standard of espresso (with the correct grind). The solenoid however prevents a "blow" when taking the portafilter off, and allows you to back-flush to clean the machine periodically.

    For background reading on Gaggias try searching in the alt.coffee usenet group for the machine you are thinking of buying!

    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.coffee

    HTH - Rufus.
  • manhattan
    manhattan Posts: 1,461 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    thanks,i will check out that site.
  • RufusA - well I didn't know that! Thought a Gran would be ideal! If you've got a minute, could you look at the specials on the Gaggia site and let me know if you would recommend any of them, I don't want a machine that is way inferior to the Classic I got rid of! I'd be really going down hill then, just that the Classic was too big for us and it expected to be used too often! We like an espresso in the evening - it's never kept us awake!
  • RufusA
    RufusA Posts: 939 Forumite
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    Can I just add my 2p worth here! We treated ourselves to a Gaggia Classic a couple of years ago, it replaced a smaller machine, however, unless you are going to constantly - and I mean 5/6 times a day, run the machine, it takes too long to heat up, run hot water through it so it's really hot enough, and then make coffee.

    Agree. Any decent espresso machine takes at minimum of 5 mins to heat up, and ideally should be given a good 30 mins for everthing to warm up internally to the same temperature. Gaggia is actually faster than some high end domestic machines as it has a smaller aluminium boiler (rather than brass) and quite a beefy heating element.

    It's not really an issue for me as I flick my machine on when I go for a shower, and it's ready to use for breakfast. Similarly flick the switch on when serving the main course, and ready for coffee after dessert. It tends to get back up to temperature in the time it takes to change coffee grinds shot - shot.

    YMMV of course.

    Rufus.
  • RufusA
    RufusA Posts: 939 Forumite
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    If you've got a minute, could you look at the specials on the Gaggia site and let me know if you would recommend any of them, I don't want a machine that is way inferior to the Classic I got rid of! I'd be really going down hill then, just that the Classic was too big for us and it expected to be used too often! We like an espresso in the evening - it's never kept us awake!

    ALL domestic *real* Gaggias AFAIK have the same sized boilers and heating elements. Therefore if the Classic didn't suit, then (assuming yours was not faulty) no Gaggia will be suitable!

    As mentioned before the Baby is the cheapest of the solenoid Gaggias, so will buy you the same as the Classic for less money. However if you didn't get on with the Classic the Baby would be just as "bad".

    Might be worth asking in alt.coffee as they are the experts. If it's shot - shot time rather than heat up time that is the biggest bugbear then you may be better off with another make with a bigger brass boiler. Heat up time you won't be able to get round for a real espresso, good things take time (though a timer plug might help!). A quality machine shouldn't mind being kept up to temperature for an hour or so before use.

    HTH - Rufus.
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