browser compatability

thistleboon

Does anyone out there have any knowledge of browser problems between Mac OS10 (Safari) and Front Page?

I've built a website using Front Page, works fine on Windows based machines, but is a dead loss on Macs running Safari.

Any ideas please?

intel

You will always have problems like that with FP as its design is flawed as it
is majorly associated with IE for inbuilt extensions....

Try not Publishing the site Via Frontpage but Upload via FTP, bear in mind
if you are uploading to a FP Server Extension Installed site FTP will break the Extensions installed on the site HTTPDOCS folder meaning that forms designed in FP wont work.

thistleboon

Thanks

The problem seems to occur with Safari, the index page comes up ok, but the rendering looks terrible and you cannot get into the site by pressing the "enter" button. I've been chasing my tail with this one, I will give your suggestion a try. If you should be running a Mac have a look at the site:
https://www.swanseacameraclub.org.

cheers!

intel

thistleboon wrote:

Thanks

The problem seems to occur with Safari, the index page comes up ok, but the rendering looks terrible and you cannot get into the site by pressing the "enter" button. I've been chasing my tail with this one, I will give your suggestion a try. If you should be running a Mac have a look at the site:
https://www.swanseacameraclub.org.

cheers!

P.S An Entrance page is a sign of bad design, do you want a visitor or not.

If there is an obstacle you will lose customers, get me drift. :beer:

martindow

I'm using firefox on a windows xp system and I can't get the enter site button to work either - it doesn't seem to be a link. Looking at the page source, as has been mentioned, it is full of stuff that gives FP a bad name. Apparently more recent versions produce cleaner code.

I also agree with the comment about a splash page not being a good idea. If you would like some advice on optimising the site for search engines I would be pleased to do that.

Best wishes
Martin

Darksun

Frontpage is a horrible monstrosity of standards breaking design.

I find it best to avoid WYSIWYG editors, but if you really want to use one I recommend NVU (free), or Dreamweaver.

simont_2

Martins right, it doesn't work with FireFox on Win XP either, which is fairly typical of a frontpage designed site. The problem is, frontpage will use many IE only functions to do even simple things like links and positioning. If I were you I'd certainly be looking at doing a redesign with wither hard coded HTML or using a more standards compliant WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver (if you want tp pay) or Amaya/NVU if you don't (just google them).

Splash screens are really a bad design choice. Research and analysis of the web has shown that people see a site with a splash page as unprofessional and not worthy of their trust, and by association custom. If your ust starting out with publishing web pages on the net you should check out the useit website by usability guru Jakob Nielsen, he compiles a top ten mistakes every year. Splash pages are on this yers list by the way.

Oh, the method you use to publish pages in FP shouldn't really make much of a difference, its the code thats bad.

intel

Darksun wrote:

Frontpage is a horrible monstrosity of standards breaking design.

I find it best to avoid WYSIWYG editors, but if you really want to use one I recommend NVU (free), or Dreamweaver.

Stay away from WYSIWYG on one hand but on the other use Dreamweaver

Er Dreamweaver is WYSIWYG aswell. as you can have design view and HTML
exactly the same as Frontpage and both do churn out some bad code.

martindow

Er Dreamweaver is WYSIWYG aswell. as you can have design view and HTML
exactly the same as Frontpage and both do churn out some bad code.


Intel, I can't really agree with you regarding Dreamweaver. They are both WYSIWYG but Dreamweaver code is I think quite good and bears no comparison with the sort of bloated code Front Page has produced on Thistleboon's site.

For most of us, html hand coding is not a realistic option and some sort of WYSIWYG editor is needed. Have you tried producing html pages on Open Office? That is fine for a small site and the coding is very clean.

Martin

intel

martindow wrote:

Er Dreamweaver is WYSIWYG aswell. as you can have design view and HTML
exactly the same as Frontpage and both do churn out some bad code.


Intel, I can't really agree with you regarding Dreamweaver. They are both WYSIWYG but Dreamweaver code is I think quite good and bears no comparison with the sort of bloated code Front Page has produced on Thistleboon's site.

For most of us, html hand coding is not a realistic option and some sort of WYSIWYG editor is needed. Have you tried producing html pages on Open Office? That is fine for a small site and the coding is very clean.

Martin

Ive done hand code for 8years now and Dreamweaver and FP are both rubbish at code, its just that Dreamweaver isnt so rubbish at code than FP.