Six reasons to be optimistic

GDB2222

sabretoothtigger wrote: »

Shares showing better returns then bonds
Probably true if you can hold ten years and they dont go broke first

The yield on the FTSE is 5.9%. The yield on govt stocks is 4.4%. The 5.9% is free of basic rate tax, so it's equivalent to 7.4% for a tax-payer. So, the ONLY question is how much dividends will be cut by.

ryandj

going2die_rich wrote: »

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6) - No, they'll just have a president who is wanting to talk to states like Iran. All these rogue states will be laughing away with Obama in the white house because they know he hasnt got the backbone to do anything to them. They can do what they like.

And what is a "rogue state" apart from something made up by the republicans? Sounds like some typical US imperialistic nonsense. Sorry, off topic.

Jonbvn

hethmar wrote: »

Yes, truly we are very fortunate compared with the majority of people in the world.

I have worked in several 3rd world counties. The majority of the citizens from any of them would give their right (and probably left) arm to live in the UK, credit crunch or not.

Seeing dead bodies on the side of the road puts any problems I might have into perspective.

lynzpower

Well Im cheerful as I managed to get a full dine in for 10 quid offer at M&S last night at 7pm in the heart of the City.

That pleased me a lot TBH.

hethmar

Waitrose has a similar £10 dinner for two offer at the moment, including a bottle of decentish wine. Got mine.

StevieJ

GDB2222 wrote: »

The yield on the FTSE is 5.9%. The yield on govt stocks is 4.4%. The 5.9% is free of basic rate tax, so it's equivalent to 7.4% for a tax-payer. So, the ONLY question is how much dividends will be cut by.

You can take 20% off for the banks for a start. The dividends generally may drop but whose to say they won't return to their former glory in a couple of years.

sabretoothtigger

More like five years, right now even without paying off the 12 % coupon they have roughly double the amount of shares to pay a dividend on so its got to be half what it was for at least five years I'd say.

shaz77_2

Conrad wrote: »

The opposite of your take is true.
Old fashioned red neck John Wayne 'shoot em boys' is a quaint immature approach.
Obama is just the Man to get words to do the work of guns.

If you think about it we all think in words and act on words. As per the Irish experience, we find it is words and the Human conversation that alter outcomes, not gun totin red knecks with narrow unstretched minds.

That post is a load of rubbish, John Waynes approach was never to use violence as a first resort.

Incidentally some make take exception to you referring to the terrorist onslaught in Northern Ireland as the "Irish Experience".

Cannon_Fodder

StevieJ wrote: »

He may have said it, he certainly didn't mean it.

What is important is that the British public believed him in 1951. After a campaign in which Labour tried to paint Churchill as a warmonger;

" "Whose finger on the trigger?" has become the slogan for this campaign after the Daily Mirror coined the phrase for a front-page headline."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/23/newsid_4013000/4013583.stm

"Voters rejected Labour's tactic of labelling Mr Churchill as a warmonger"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/26/newsid_3687000/3687425.stm


Having campaigned so long and hard for the Nation to recognise the threat of Hitler in order to try to be in a position to Jaw-Jaw from a position of strength - and being largely ignored, so we were pacifying Hitler from a position of weakness - the country were lucky when, in Spring 1940 with the Germans just across the Channel, that he was there.

IveSeenTheLight

mitchaa wrote: »

I have a fuel receipt Oct 2007 showing fuel @ 96.9ppl

Petrol today is @ 94.9ppl.

I've heard that it's now down to 91.9ppl.
dont tesco or Sainsbury's or whoever still give 5p off a litre if you do your shopping with them?