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tax credits legal proceedings

so years ago, 3 or 4 i got tax credits with a woman. and then we split up and there'd been an overpayment. I paid half of it which seemed fair, and she clearly hasnt paid any of it cos now I've got a warning of legal proceedings demanding the rest of it.

I refuse to pay any more of it cos I've paid what seems reasonable, even tho she technically would have gotten more of it than I did.. Back when we first got noticed of overpayment she wouldnt tell me one way or the other what she was doing about it and the tax credit place wont tell me what dealings they've had with her over it so Im kind of in the dark.

I've phoned up and asked for a form to dispute paying the rest of it, which they're sending me. but i was wondering what "commencement of enforcement proceedings"
leads to. the amount remaining is £377.
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  • SomeBozo
    SomeBozo Posts: 1,195 Forumite
    Who was the tax credits in the name of?

    Bozo
  • browolf
    browolf Posts: 154 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    SomeBozo wrote: »
    Who was the tax credits in the name of?

    Bozo


    both our names...joint
  • SomeBozo
    SomeBozo Posts: 1,195 Forumite
    OK, so your approach sounds reasonable.

    Did you keep a record of your payments back? You need to include this in the form your return.

    It should be a open and shut case.

    Bozo
  • suelees1
    suelees1 Posts: 1,617 Forumite
    Unfortunately I believe you both have 'joint and several' liable so they can pursue either of you. You've done the right thing disputing it as they do have discretion to write off or reduce.

    They might agree you've paid a reasonble amount but legally they can demand it from you. I don't know what a district judge would decide in this case but if it went that far there would be costs on top as well so it's better to try to get it resolved as you are doing.
    I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!
  • 'joint & several liability' means that they can accept 50% off each customer, & then if one doesnt pay, the one who's already paid 50% can be asked to pay the remaining amount - as you're finding out. they will normally do everything they can to get the other person to pay though. on everything you sign - application forms, award notices & renewals it reminds you of this. they are well within their legal rights to take both of you to court - as to what a judge would decide i couldn't say. good luck.
  • System
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    It's not much comfort to you I know but your ex will have received the same letter.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • surreysaver
    surreysaver Posts: 5,257 Forumite
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    It would seem logical to me that they should reclaim it off the person who has been paid the money. After all, you cannot ask them to pay tax credits 50/50 to each claimant, can you?
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • suelees1
    suelees1 Posts: 1,617 Forumite
    My understanding is that it was a joint claim based on their joint income with both having access to the award. It would seem fair and reasonable that any overpayment is apportioned but it doesn't work like that.

    It's a bit like an overdraft on a joint account or entering into a joint loan or even council tax if you've been living together. Both are jointly and severally liable so either can be pursued for the full amount.
    I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!
  • surreysaver
    surreysaver Posts: 5,257 Forumite
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    But they don't both have access to the award. It can only be paid to the parent who receives the child benefit.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • suelees1
    suelees1 Posts: 1,617 Forumite
    It just mentions tax credits not necessarily child tax credits. Mind you it doesn't matter which one it is, the claim is a joint one based on both incomes with both siging the claim form. It isn't paid 50/50 each as it can only be paid to one but it is expected to be shared...this is what benefits are about as a couple.

    We can use an example of say JSA or IS. It's only paid to one of a couple but is for the benefit of both.
    I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!
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