Getting an estimate from electrician?

brightontraveller

The time of posting bears no relevance on the validity of the question asked, Just to let you know the commercial side of our works normally entails working at night, no never made a mistake or had to close a company down or change its name or call it something else because it has a bad name not all can say that can they… my question which you never answered or the fact that your own web site does not state what constitutes a late payment are not of importance or the fact that you seem to feel the need to justify your charge for labour

I’m just advising that people get at least three written quotes as does your governing body and many others

In England as well as Scotland

Generally, there are no formal requirements which have to be satisfied to create a binding contract. Limited exceptions include contracts for the sale of land and consumer credit agreements. Consequently, a verbal contract will be binding.
The main problem with oral contracts is proving exactly what was said and agreed. Generally, it's one person's word against another's.

baldelectrician

brightontraveller wrote: »

The time of posting bears no relevance on the validity of the question asked, Just to let you know the commercial side of our works normally entails working at night, no never made a mistake or had to close a company down or change its name or call it something else because it has a bad name not all can say that can they… my question which you never answered or the fact that your own web site does not state what constitutes a late payment are not of importance or the fact that you seem to feel the need to justify your charge for labour

I’m just advising that people get at least three written quotes as does your governing body and many others

In England as well as Scotland

Generally, there are no formal requirements which have to be satisfied to create a binding contract. Limited exceptions include contracts for the sale of land and consumer credit agreements. Consequently, a verbal contract will be binding.
The main problem with oral contracts is proving exactly what was said and agreed. Generally, it's one person's word against another's.

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lyndasharp

Thanks for the answers... I've arranged for an electrician to take a look. He won't charge me just for a quote, but will charge if he has to do an electrical test. He's going to go round there and take a look first, and do a quote from that without the full test if possible - but if he recommends having the test done I'll certainly do it.

I'll make sure the quote gets written down for me Will only get one quote at this stage as it's really a preliminary one before I buy the house, I'm expecting there to be some changes when I move in and decide on things like the kitchen lighting, how many sockets in each room etc.

CFC

Bite the bullet, get it rewired, and if you can get it done before you move in...it's awful having it done when you live there.....

robby-01

brightontraveller wrote: »

The Surveyors are in the most there to see that the building is worth the money the building society lend you and for no other purpose… many but not all have no electrical, building, plumbing, gas etc knowledge or qualifications at all, they will simply pass the buck

No installation of 40years old would meet current regulations if the installation has as you say been updated then wear is the paper work to prove so 610-4 + 514-9 BS 7671 , The installation if designed and installed correctly this was 40 years ago… the regulations have changed a lot in that time… Items do deteriorate after 40 years chapter 51 BS 7671 may help you understand this….

Just finding a 40 year old board that will take a RCD etc would be nearly impossible there are so many changes that to say “will require upgrade work” is an understatement although stating a installation requires a rewire without seeing it is not what I would normally do for a 40 year old one to be brought up to current regs would be cheaper to rewire in the long run



I would get a quote to rewire based on the age etc of the installation this saves you the money that you have to pay for the inspection and if the owner is not happy to drop the money off they would have to prove the installation is up to current standards if they agree you have saved on the price of the property if they do not you still have the option to get a survey but the advantage of knowing exactly what your worst situation would be money wise

You sound as if you are just thinking of gold plating an installation rob if I remember correctly last time I had to explain to you regs for height of switches, the difference between a light switch and a fan isolator, what a RCD does and how it works
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who on earth is talking of putting rcd's into 40 yr old fuseboards.
If the fixed wiring is ok then an upgrade of switchgear ,bonding conductors and wiring accessories would be a much cheaper option to a full rewire.
why change something that is ok,if the customer wants a rewire fine but a real electrician would surely advise the customer of all available options.
If the wheel falls off your caravan do you get a new caravan or do you put a new wheel on it.
My guess is that you have limited experience in the industry and spend far to much time with your head in books.
That lack of experience means you also have very little faith in your own ability to do the job.
Anyone can say an installation needs rewiring and provide a quote,if only it was that easy.
my guess is you dont recommend carrying out a test because you dont know how to carry one out,there is no shame in that.
But should you really be on here offering advise to layman which could potentially cost them hundreds if not thousands of pounds in cash that may not need to spend.
op. get a test carried out ,if you dont you will be in no position to ask for money off.

brightontraveller

robby-01 wrote: »

who on earth is talking of putting rcd's into 40 yr old fuseboards.
If the fixed wiring is ok then an upgrade of switchgear ,bonding conductors and wiring accessories would be a much cheaper option to a full rewire.
why change something that is ok,if the customer wants a rewire fine but a real electrician would surely advise the customer of all available options.
If the wheel falls off your caravan do you get a new caravan or do you put a new wheel on it.
My guess is that you have limited experience in the industry and spend far to much time with your head in books.
That lack of experience means you also have very little faith in your own ability to do the job.
Anyone can say an installation needs rewiring and provide a quote,if only it was that easy.
my guess is you dont recommend carrying out a test because you dont know how to carry one out,there is no shame in that.
But should you really be on here offering advise to layman which could potentially cost them hundreds if not thousands of pounds in cash that may not need to spend.
op. get a test carried out ,if you dont you will be in no position to ask for money off.

if they ever want to add circuits etc which most people moving into a house that has 40 year old wiring will … e.g. the number of electrical items used then was much less than now… they will normally be requiring more outlets… higher loading items such as showers etc theses would very unlikely be able to be added to a 40 year old installation try getting the fuses RCD's etc you’ll need them to comply with new regs (regs are not fries from Maccy D’s ) also as they have not actually bought the premises They are in a good position to save money on works that they may either be able to get the owner to do or take of the price of the house any survey is likely to pick up on the age of the electrical installation,

you don’t have a clue about cable deterioration try reading the regs may help you

All your talking about is gold plating the house all nice shinny switches and sockets you and bald eagle should play cowboys and Indians

if you put new wheels on a forty year old caravan its still a 40 year old caravan… Its competent person scheme not incompetent person scheme maybe that’s were your getting confused J

lyndasharp

Well here's the results:

Remove:
- halogen light on stairs
- multigang socket by cabinet
- understairs light and light on staircase
- 2 lights in kitchen wired in the flexes
- outside light at rear wired in flex
- cabling at top of stairs including time clock and trunking
- light over sink
- socket back bedroom wired in flex
Cost - £140.00
Recommend the following is undertaken:
- change all light switches throughout the house - £6.00 each
- all lighting pendants £15.00 each
- change sockets from singles to doubles as existing - £25.00 each
- replace fan in the kitchen and bathroom - £45.00 each
The above costs on recommendations is inclusive of labour and materials
Works required to bring installation to safe standard:
- bonding of gas and water - £100.00
- cross bonding of hot and cold pipes - £60.00
- identification of conductors - £25.00
- replace fuse board, test and certificate - £250.00
All of the above is exclusive of VAT.

Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks!

[Deleted User]

I just paid £1,350 to have kitchen and basement rewired, including moving electricity board. It took 4 days. I hope this helps.

adaze

Sounds OK to me.