Parking ticket by Euro car parks

Zippy123

Cat695 wrote: »

Erm no you won't because its actually completly legal to remove a clamp from your vehicle if it doesn't belong to the council or the police....God people like you are morons

And you are plain rude.

If you deliberately damage something then it is criminal damage. No contest. Simple.

I truely hope you get done sometime. You'd deserve it!

Cat695

Zippy123 wrote: »

And you are plain rude.

If you deliberately damage something then it is criminal damage. No contest. Simple.

I truely hope you get done sometime. You'd deserve it!

Its NOT illegal you idiot.....and I have never parked in a disabled spot or parents space in my life because I own a motorbike!

Sadly this country has to put up with small minded people like you.

Zippy123

Perhaps if there was zero tollerence and politeness then this county would be a better place.

It's not small minded when disabled people have to park elsewhere when selfish people have taken their spaces.

And I repeat. Criminal damage is a crime. If you damage someone elses property deliberately then they can call the police and the police can arrest you. How can you say it is not when it is the law.

I agree you can remove the clamp, but only if it can be removed without damaging it. If you damage it then you may be arrested regardless of who owns the clamp.

Other countries fine people for parking illegally in disabled spaces on private land and the funds raised in fines pay for the policing of it. About time it was introduced here.

And whilst they are at it they should also enforce the laws re private car parks are treated as public places for motoring offences such as due care, failing to stop etc because the standard of driving seems to deteriorate once drivers leave the road.

Oh I was always told that name calling is the preserve of the feeble minded.

Cat695

Is that the same as speeding fines pay for the roads??? so we can have lower road tax or making our roads safer??....ooops no because it doesn't happen because there are far more important things happening in the world that needws paying for...oh like the collapse of the uk banks which 500BILLION of the tax payers money is paying for......so your plan isn't in because it doesn't work!!! do you think your the first person to think of this.

Perhaps if there wasn't any wars then we can all sing songs round the camp fire, but it isn't going to happen. so stop flogging a dead horse....if people died because of it I may actually be on your side, but seeing as no one does then I'm not interested in your small mindness......try getting rid of child poverty instead thats far more worthy in my book.

Please show me ANYONE thats be prosecuted for damaging a car clamp (THAT ISN'T OWNED BY THE POLICE OR COUNCIL) a Judge would laugh you oout of the court.

jhp

patterdale2000 wrote: »

Please can someone give me some advice please.

I received a parking charge notice from euro car parks today. I would like to appeal against it. The car park is for a shopping outlet that offer free parking. I told my husband to park in a disabled parking bay, we are not reg disabled, but since I have just come out of hospital and having a general anaesthetic and having an operation on my lady parts I find it very hard to get out of the car in a normal bay. We would have parked on mother & tobbler but they where full and having a 3 year old and a 13 week old baby we would have been fine to park there.
We just popped to the shop to get some shoes for my daughter and when we came back we found the notice. Also on the notice for the times of parking they have put 12.50 to 12.50? So are they saying that we never stayed there? If I appeal against it would I get anywhere? :mad:

Their is already a long thread about them here.;)
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=196087

uktyler

Cat695 wrote: »

Please show me ANYONE thats be prosecuted for damaging a car clamp (THAT ISN'T OWNED BY THE POLICE OR COUNCIL) a Judge would laugh you oout of the court.

So every one carrys a petrol driven angle grinder around in the car, and we have a parking free for all.

Then the shops start towing cars, and you have to pay a release fee.

We all know the fines are not enforcable, but they are there for a reason.

Comparing private clamping firms to gun criminals and calling everyone 'morons' and 'idiots' is not helping your case much.

Parking in these spaces is for the good of the people that need them. Encouraging others to ignore them, and telling them they will not have to pay the fine will only encourage the shops to take greater action.

oldone_2

Hold it one moment. The O.P said she had just come out of hospital and had difficulty moving. In my book that makes her disabled -albeit temporarily.
If where she parked just had a sign saying disabled parking only, and made no mention of displaying a badge, then she fulfilled the criteria set up by the landowners/PPC, and should not have been charged.

sarahg1969

And how many people with blue badges park in disabled spaces in supermarkets when they don't need to, just because it's their 'right' to do so? And how many times do you see drivers sitting in the cars in disabled bays, when they could realistically park elsewhere? That's just as selfish, because they especially should know how valuable the spaces are.

In this instance, the OP thought she really needed the space (assuming here that her husband couldn't have dropped her at the door, and then parked in an ordinary space), and is not a regular "offender".

Cat695

oldone wrote: »

Hold it one moment. The O.P said she had just come out of hospital and had difficulty moving. In my book that makes her disabled -albeit temporarily.
If where she parked just had a sign saying disabled parking only, and made no mention of displaying a badge, then she fulfilled the criteria set up by the landowners/PPC, and should not have been charged.

Thank you! some one with a bit of sense FINALLY comes to this thread!

Vampgirl

Whilst I don't agree with people parking in disabled spaces when they don't need them, there are many people out there who are temporarily disabled (either through illness/injury or because they don't qualify for a blue badge) who also need to use these spaces and they shouldn't be penalised for it. When taking my parents in law out I have often talked to car park attendants (not generally in supermarkts, but at places like national trust or some shopping centres) and they always use common sense and tell us to park in the disabled spaces even without a badge.

We now also park in disabled spaces when we take them shopping - supermarket or retail park. Neither of them have a blue badge, however mother in law cannot walk more than a few feet and needs a wheelchair and whilst father in law can walk, if he walks too far he gets chest pains. I have no qualms about using the spaces without a badge as without the spaces we wouldn't be able to take them shopping, or anywhere else for that matter. Just because they don't tick all the boxes to qualify for a badge doesn't make them any less disabled.

In this case I think the OP was parked there with good reason but I don't expect Euro Car Parks to accept this as they aren't really interested in fair parking policies...revenue generation is much more important to them. I would still try appealing but assuming its unsucessful I would just ignore any letters from ECP demanding payment - they aren't legally enforcable so don't worry about them.

One thing I would do when the appeal fails, is contact the management office of the retail park - not to complain as such (because they didn't issue the ticket so aren't directly to blame) but to inform them of the practices of their parking enforcement company and to say to them that its a shame that they treat their mobility impaired customers in such a way. I wouldn't be expecting any compensation or anything, but they may surprise you and apologise.