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Radio One DJ dig at Doric ruffles feathers

moyles thought north-east crews in bbc’s trawlermen series were foreign
MISUNDERSTANDING: Radio One DJ Chris Moyles, above, caused a stir when he commented on the accents in the BBC’s Trawlermen, below, featuring crews from the north-east
DJ CHRIS Moyles caused a “mineer” in the north-east yesterday when he had a light-hearted dig at the Doric dialect, live on air.
The Radio One host told listeners he initially thought all the stars of the BBC’s series Trawlermen – featuring crews from Peterhead and Fraserburgh – were foreign.
“I love Trawlerman (sic) but I’ve never seen a full programme, I always just catch the end of it. I think it’s amazing they have to subtitle these people. They’re like the most Scottish people on the planet.
“When I first tuned in I thought they were foreign. I couldn’t understand a word they were saying.”
His comments last night prompted calls for more north-east voices to be heard on national programmes.
Mr Moyles spoke out at the same time as a range of activities and events are being held to celebrate the north-east dialect. The Doric Festival is directed by Sandy Stronach, who admitted he had never heard of Chris Moyles.
“Maybe it’s unfair to blame him for not being unable to understand us,” he said.
“Like a lot of English people his ears may not be tuned to our accents. This just seems like typical BBC arrogance.
“You never hear any local voices on national programmes these days, apart from Trawlermen. That hasn't always been the case.”
Tony Miller, of Peterhead Community Council, said: “I think that most people in Scotland would understand the show, although it can be a bit on the broad side. It might be difficult to follow if you weren’t used to the accent.”
A Radio One spokesman said: “Chris certainly didn't mean to say anything derogatory about the show or the dialect. He said how much he loved the programme.”
In schools across Aberdeenshire, children are often encouraged to use Doric, which includes words like mineer, meaning a commotion.
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  • Angua2
    Angua2 Posts: 673 Forumite
    Hiya! Thanks for yr post! Will see if I can find a repeat of the programme on the beeb's website...the listen again thingy
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  • Moyles is a pratt. Who cares what accent these trawlermen have? They do a bloody hard, dangerous job and deserve more respect from that fat oaf who makes his money very easily.

    I wish he would taken them up on their offer to go out on the boat though :p
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  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    he may be a pratt but its true, it is a hard accent to understand,the same as a broad liverpudlian accent is hard to understand.
    if you listen to his show you will hear he takes the mickey out of almost every regional dialect,so if your from the north east i wouldnt take it too personally.
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  • Miss_Cinnabon
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    it is not a hard accent to understand, i was brought up with doric and have spoken it all my life, it seems its only the english who have problems as when we went to florida last year, we were amazed at the comments from people over there who just loved our accents and they couldnt get enough of us, not once did anyone say they couldnt understand us

    i hate chris moyles anyway, he is so up his own !!!! its unreal, unless people speak english to him he treats them like !!!!!!
  • he may be a pratt but its true, it is a hard accent to understand,the same as a broad liverpudlian accent is hard to understand.
    if you listen to his show you will hear he takes the mickey out of almost every regional dialect,so if your from the north east i wouldnt take it too personally.

    No, I'm not from the North East of Scotland at all, but despite that, I have no problems understanding it. Nor the Liverpool one either. I guess growing up with something other than the accepted BBC dialect, I've learned to tolerate accents and understand them rather more than Moyles does.

    He should be more respectful of people doing one of the most dangerous and difficult jobs imagineable.
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  • Violetta_2
    Violetta_2 Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    There was a thread a while ago on Doric personally I have found some of it difficult to understand especially when I overheard some old boys who must have been straight off the mearns. Moyles is an @rse I don't think anyone should worry too much about what he say's. I'm sure I've read Radio 1 listening figures are dropping especially for his timeslot.
    Booo!!!
  • Glitzkiss
    Glitzkiss Posts: 5,326 Forumite
    oh bloody hell! what a fuss about nothing :rolleyes:

    Why does any comment about our culture have to be taken as a criticism? He said he loved the programme so what more do you want :confused:

    And surely being called the most Scottish people on the planet is a complement?

    I remember the furore after the first series of Trawlermen when even the skippers themselves acknowledged that their accents can be hard to understand. They weren't bothered about it so why should we?

    btw, I'm no fan of Moyles either
  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    Glitzkiss wrote: »
    oh bloody hell! what a fuss about nothing :rolleyes:

    Why does any comment about our culture have to be taken as a criticism? He said he loved the programme so what more do you want :confused:

    And surely being called the most Scottish people on the planet is a complement?

    I remember the furore after the first series of Trawlermen when even the skippers themselves acknowledged that their accents can be hard to understand. They weren't bothered about it so why should we?

    btw, I'm no fan of Moyles either

    well said,for some reason some people have a chip on thier shoulders and always see any comments as critisism,by chris mentioning it on his show it will probably increase the viewing figures of the programme,which might lead to another series.
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  • Sagz_2
    Sagz_2 Posts: 6,251 Forumite
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    it is not a hard accent to understand, i was brought up with doric and have spoken it all my life

    It might not be hard for you to understand but it is for me! Great programme but I do need the subtitles so I can understand whats being said.


    Oh - and I rather like Chris Moyles.
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  • scbk
    scbk Posts: 1,216 Forumite
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    Glitzkiss wrote: »
    oh bloody hell! what a fuss about nothing :rolleyes:

    Exactly, I heard it live on the radio, it was a conversation a few seconds long before they moved onto the next subject

    Subtitles are often needed on trawlermen partly due to the strong accent but also all the machinery/waves crashing in the background
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