Free handouts for the wealthy.

meester

1echidna wrote: »

It is typical for the majority, single or retired or with no children under 18.

It is not typical. Pensioners are guaranteed a minimum of £124, £190 for a couple.

If you are unable to work through disability you will get more.

People will get JSA if they are between jobs, which is lower.

1echidna

meester wrote: »

It is not typical. Pensioners are guaranteed a minimum of £124, £190 for a couple.

If you are unable to work through disability you will get more.

People will get JSA if they are between jobs, which is lower.

Your quibling. £190 for a couple is £95 each . The point is that many single adults live on incomes of around this level give or take some. Now the !!!! has really hit the fan there may be many more in a year or so.

Pssst

Havent read all the followups but got the general gist of it. I was screwed by Icesave thieves. I do not consider myself wealthy. I have worked ever since the day i left school and have provided for myself. I have never been a burden to the state but rather,have been a net contributor and have helped to keep the sick and deserving as well as the feral,!!!!less and terminally useless. If i ever lose any money in a bank due to it failing or its protections not being honored,i will simply rip off another bank to get my money bank. One thing i have learned,it is foolish to be a saver.

Agent_C

iamesbo wrote: »

JSA is £60.50, which could pay your gas or electric, but not both.

But people on JSA also get their rent and council tax paid, free prescriptions/dental treatment etc etc, so it adds up. I used to work as a benefits adviser and many of my clients had a higher monthly income from benefits than I was bringing home in wages.

iamesbo

Pssst wrote: »

Havent read all the followups but got the general gist of it. I was screwed by Icesave thieves. I do not consider myself wealthy. I have worked ever since the day i left school and have provided for myself. I have never been a burden to the state but rather,have been a net contributor and have helped to keep the sick and deserving as well as the feral,!!!!less and terminally useless. If i ever lose any money in a bank due to it failing or its protections not being honored,i will simply rip off another bank to get my money bank. One thing i have learned,it is foolish to be a saver.

You would never have been a 'burden on the state' because you would have been covered by a group insurance scheme.
I bet you would never use the term "I have never been a burden on the car insurance
industry' if you had never claimed on your car insurance.
To use the kind of words you use is inaccurate, unfair and unkind to you fellow man who may have suffered some kind of misfortune.

Yes there will be some fraud but then there is in every insurance scheme, but there is no anonymous line to call to report people who are fiddling their insurance or their tax return is there? I wonder why that is? Prehaps because it is a crime comitted by the wealthy??? We are not bombarded with ads on TV about tax and insurance fraudsters either!!

It is the double standards applied to the rich and the poor that I have issue with.

And yes it is foolish to save unless you are very very rich because you will only be penalised for it. The tradgity of this is that when the state goes bust there is nothing to fall back on. Economic madness.

baldeagle09

I don't understand why the Government are differentiating between individual savers deposits and Local Council deposits.
Taking it to its logical conclusion Anyother County Council could open up deposit accounts under the name of its chief executive, and the deposits would be safe.
Also, if other banks fail, as seems more and more likely, will the government step in and give another 100% guarantee?

noh

iamesbo wrote: »

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Yes there will be some fraud but then there is in every insurance scheme, but there is no anonymous line to call to report people who are fiddling their insurance or their tax return is there? I wonder why that is? Prehaps because it is a crime comitted by the wealthy??? ............................

Of course there is
http://www.insurancefraudbureau.org/
http://www.taxevasionhotline.co.uk/

iamesbo

baldeagle09 wrote: »

I don't understand why the Government are differentiating between individual savers deposits and Local Council deposits.
Taking it to its logical conclusion Anyother County Council could open up deposit accounts under the name of its chief executive, and the deposits would be safe.
Also, if other banks fail, as seems more and more likely, will the government step in and give another 100% guarantee?

It's so simple, the government loves whacking up the council tax because it effects the richest people least. If they bailed them out the rich would have to pay their fair share,
and we cant have that can we!!

iamesbo

noh wrote: »

Of course there is
http://www.insurancefraudbureau.org/
http://www.taxevasionhotline.co.uk/

No TV campaign though eh??;)

geysergeezer

iamesbo wrote: »

Those people are infact recieving their rightful entitlement through the national insurance scheme to which they have paid contributions, or would do if they could get work, so it is not right to call it a 'handout'.

LMFAO perhaps the most naive and ridiculous statement i've read in this whole 'Iceland' debacle.

Perhaps the icing on the cake would be that the state welfare system be compromised in order to pay our compensation. Maybe dole scroungers actually made to work for their living?, or junkies go without their 'prescription' dope? Someone always has to pay, today it isn't Icelandic depositors and their hard-earned savings. If you don't like that, well so what?