eeeeck handbrake sticking on.....

anewman

Conor wrote: »

Pointless replacing the cylinders unless they're leaking as you usually end up having to replace brakepipes when they inevitably end up being seized in. They will NOT be the source of the fault.

Apparently they become more prone to leaking after replacing shoes due to them sliding over bits previously not moved over (which may have corroded) as the auto adjusters adjusted the shoes out.

molerat

anewman wrote: »

Apparently they become more prone to leaking after replacing shoes due to them sliding over bits previously not moved over (which may have corroded) as the auto adjusters adjusted the shoes out.

Do you fit new calipers when you get new front pads then ..... same thing applies

bargainbird

Last service was beg of august. Have booked my mobile mechanic who did service. should be here today - fingers crossed.

Have tried to drive it but after a few yards it seizes again, and feels like i'm towing a tractor.....

I'll let you know what happens and the dent it has left in my pocket:mad:

anewman

molerat wrote: »

Do you fit new calipers when you get new front pads then ..... same thing applies

Yeah but a cylinder is only a tenner each side and you've got the drums off, shoes out, they should theoretically only take 2 seconds to swap each side (excluding bleeding time after) - it just makes sense if they're old to replace them to make 100% certain they won't leak and destroy the brand new shoes necessitating the work all over again.

Doing the caliper pistons is a bit more involved, and pads are generally cheaper than shoes if soiled with fluids.

Conor_3

anewman wrote: »

Yeah but a cylinder is only a tenner each side and you've got the drums off, shoes out, they should theoretically only take 2 seconds to swap each side (excluding bleeding time after) - it just makes sense if they're old to replace them to make 100% certain they won't leak and destroy the brand new shoes necessitating the work all over again.

Doing the caliper pistons is a bit more involved, and pads are generally cheaper than shoes if soiled with fluids.

Rubbish. A caliper is easier to change if anything. And you obviously haven't worked on cars more than a few years old otherwise you'd know the "only takes 2 seconds to swap" is a crock of rubbish as it pretty much always takes more than that as the brake pipe union seizes into the cylinder so you end up having to change brake pipes as well.

Again, unless the cylinder is weeping, there is absolutely no point replacing it. Going on your stupid argument, perhaps we should swap the engine everytime an oil change is due. After all, you've got the bonnet up and it's only a dozen bolts, clips and pipes. :rolleyes:

molerat

The last time I changed a rear cylinder it involved hacksaws, mole grips a blowtorch and flaring kit. Not something I would do for fun. :eek:

spaceman5

Conor wrote: »

Going on your stupid argument, perhaps we should swap the engine everytime an oil change is due. After all, you've got the bonnet up and it's only a dozen bolts, clips and pipes. :rolleyes:

i know most people on here find it irritating, but i do chuckle when you come out with your sarcastic comments like this one, Dave

bargainbird

Right you can all stop rowing now....

Mechanic been, Cylinders leaked onto shoes (?) wrecked the shoe and it came off.
He's replaced cylinders both sides and shoes here for 1 hr and left a dent in my pocket of £150.00

Now i'm off for a drive........:j

Conor_3

You've been lucky/unlucky. Lucky in that the brake fluid didn't leak out completely on that side and you ending up with next to no braking and unlucky that you're probably the one person in the UK who has had the brake shoe lining come adrift. Usually it just gets soaked in fluid and that's it.

anewman

Conor wrote: »

Rubbish. A caliper is easier to change if anything. And you obviously haven't worked on cars more than a few years old otherwise you'd know the "only takes 2 seconds to swap" is a crock of rubbish as it pretty much always takes more than that as the brake pipe union seizes into the cylinder so you end up having to change brake pipes as well.

Only problem I've had swapping rear cylinders is the nuts retaining the cylinder to the backplate being seized and rounding off like plasticine. The brake pipe union came off no hassle each side. This is on a 14 year old car. I am convinced the one brake pipe is original as it appears to be steel and coated with something. Although I did have a legitimate reason to swap mine in that the bleed nipple snapped off and it was leaking - but had the cylinder been changed when the shoes were changed about a year ago I doubt it would have happened and would have saved a bit of hassle.

Conor wrote: »

Again, unless the cylinder is weeping, there is absolutely no point replacing it. Going on your stupid argument, perhaps we should swap the engine everytime an oil change is due. After all, you've got the bonnet up and it's only a dozen bolts, clips and pipes. :rolleyes:

Again a cylinder is only a tenner each side, a tenner to save a potential bit of hassle later.