how do 1st October changes affect doors/windows/roof work?

temba

Hello everyone

I've rung my council, and emailed them (a month ago, still with no reply). I hope someone here may be able to point me in the right direction.

I want to have some work done on my kitchen, including resiting the back door to then end of the kitchen. At the end of the kitchen there is a window, which I want to replace with french windows. The problem is that there is a sloping roof, which means that to have french windows which meet building regs I must raise the roof at the lowest point by about 6 inches. The roof will still slope. It will just do so at a shallower gradient. Also the height at the highest point of the roof will not change.

Then I want to replace the old door with brick and a window, replace the existing window with one slightly bigger.

Finally I want to add a sky light in the sloping roof.

I know that the PP rules changed on 1st October, but I can't find any information about the changes that refer to what I want to do.

will I need planning permission for these changes? I know that I need building regs as they bothered to email me back.

Thanks alot,
T

socks_uk

Good luck in getting a reply from the planning dept.

As I've mentioned in a previous thread, I contacted the planning department on the official 'Do I need planning permission?' form way back in July and, after numerous phone calls from me, they have just decided that i now need planning permission on a project that, prior to Oct 1st didn't need it!

All I can say is, if you're short on time, pay the £150 (that's how much they said the planning application costs) and apply rather than wait for them to come back to you as, in their words, 'the 'actual planning applications' take priority over 'enquiries'!

I'm still feeling upset it has taken so long to get back to square one!

fluffymuffy

It doesn't sound like you need PP. But then I don't know if your permitted developments rights have neen removed, if there's a clause in you original PP about altering things, if you live in a listed building or an AONB, if you live in a house, a flat, are at ground floor even..

If you draw up your proposals and send them the the planners they'll write back within a couple of weeks. Then if you don't need PP they'll let you know. I'd do that - it's best to have a letter to keep before spending lots of money if you're unsure.

socks_uk

fluffymuffy wrote: »

If you draw up your proposals and send them the the planners they'll write back within a couple of weeks.

I only wish they'd written back to me within a couple of weeks! 10 weeks to then be told "If it had been built prior to 1st Oct you would have been exempt from Planning Permission".

As you can see, I'm still a titchy bit bitter!

adaze

I can only think you would need planning permission for most of that (save the roof?) if you are in a conservation area, otherwise it is building control.

If you aren't in a conservation area then I don't think you need BC for a velux (not sure though)? For windows and doors they need to be installed by someone who will inform BC, you avoid having to pay a fee that way, I think it is FENSA the installers should be registered with..... If you do it yourself then you would need to pay BC directly....

planning_officer

Generally, installing or replacing windows/doors does not constitute 'development' in the first place, therefore it is not necessary to consider whether it is permitted development or whether permitted development rights have been removed. So, the alterations to the windows/doors probably won't need PP, and probably the slight increase in the height of the eaves won't either - presume it is at the rear? If you live in a listed building, all the alterations will require listed building consent. Also, do check there are no restrictive conditions on a previous planning permission which may preclude the insertion of the skylight in the roof - unlikely if it's a low single storey roof, which is how it sounds from your description.

rebon

Most local authorities have a duty planning officer on call, get your scheme details including a proposed drawing/sketch and make an appointment to go and see them, they will be able to advise you if its necessary for full planning permission, oh and don’t forget to include the building control section because you may need building regulation approval as well.

temba

Thanks everyone for the replies. I put in a preliminary planning application and spoke to the lady on Friday and she said the same as planning officer except that it seems I do need planning permission for the change of incline as the roof is attached to next door's roof. Yes, it is at the rear, and it is a single story roof.

I'm going to take some photos for her and see if she can come up with any suggestions. I'll keep you all posted.

T

planning_officer

temba wrote: »

it seems I do need planning permission for the change of incline as the roof is attached to next door's roof.

I can't see how that requires planning permission for that reason alone - if the roof crosses the boundary with the neighbouring property, then yes it would require permission, but if it's wholly within your boundary, then that shouldn't make any difference.