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B&B Shareholders

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  • catz1ct
    catz1ct Posts: 828 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Not sure why shareholders should receive anything tbh as shares are a risk. They have also had about 8 years of nice dividends. Most people were given them for free so effectively they never lost what they didn't have in the first place. I feel sorry for the people who invested in the rights issue.

    What about other people who have lost their money in shares when companies go under? They didn't get anything. What makes this different?
    :rotfl:
  • it's not the free shares that matter. B&B had employee share purchase schemes. Employees have invested 10 of thousands into the stock through their pay over the past 8 years.

    My partner had an investment of over 10 thousand in the company via the employee purchase plan and now it's worthless.

    It's the small investors that really loose out. The 'City' is always the winners.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,231 Forumite
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    A fair valuation would be whatever is left over when the FSCS, £6bn Treasury loan, associated interest etc has all been repaid and the remaining mortgage book sold on.

    Divide whatever is left up between the shareholders.

    Might take a long time, but is the absolute fairest way.

    I doubt there will be anything left after that. Although that is what is going to happen as I read the FSCS liability will be known only after an assessment of what many they are going to get back. The FSCS are expecting not to get enough back.
    My partner had an investment of over 10 thousand in the company via the employee purchase plan and now it's worthless.

    Whilst I sympathise with the loss, it is the risks of owning shares. That risk is increased if you only hold one share. Had that £10,000 been spread across 10 companies then it would have been less of an issue.

    Your partner paid the money, took the risk and the risk didnt pay off. If you dont like the risks you dont do it or you find ways to reduce the risk.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    I doubt there will be anything left after that. Although that is what is going to happen as I read the FSCS liability will be known only after an assessment of what many they are going to get back. The FSCS are expecting not to get enough back.

    Still trying to get my head round the figures of a £50bn mortgage book being so awful in quality that it is unlikely to be able to repay the £20bn or so pinched from the taxpayer and the FSCS.
  • Farway
    Farway Posts: 14,912 Forumite
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    it's not the free shares that matter. B&B had employee share purchase schemes. Employees have invested 10 of thousands into the stock through their pay over the past 8 years.

    My partner had an investment of over 10 thousand in the company via the employee purchase plan and now it's worthless.

    It's the small investors that really loose out. The 'City' is always the winners.

    Welcome to the club

    ex Marconi employee BTW, so not trying to be clever, mine was 20K before it became 20p
    Numerus non sum
  • catz1ct
    catz1ct Posts: 828 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Bradford & Bingley shareholders are not the only ones that have lost out on shares over the years so I don't see why they should be any different I'm afraid.
    :rotfl:
  • fatpig_2
    fatpig_2 Posts: 631 Forumite
    If B+B shareholders get 5 pence per share from the government they will be doing very well indeed.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    When you buy shares you know it's a risk that you're takiing and you know that should the company go bust you'll get nothing.

    Shares are an investment and a risk. You balance this off and choose.
  • Nick_C
    Nick_C Posts: 7,631 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Home Insurance Hacker!
    When you buy shares you know it's a risk that you're takiing and you know that should the company go bust you'll get nothing.

    Shares are an investment and a risk. You balance this off and choose.

    But of course they did not go bust, they were taken into public ownership. If they had gone bust, shareholders might have got a better deal!
  • penrhyn
    penrhyn Posts: 15,215 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    If they had gone bust shareholders would have found themselves at the bottom of the food chain.
    That gum you like is coming back in style.
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