Electrical work - staggered at the cost!

bordercars

so lets get this straight, an electrician doing the job before part p now has an expense to be part p certified. he has no greater skill, yet can now charge more because a proficent person cannot do it there self.

gas man is the same. and then theres the bull about selleing your house. US MUG BARREL


wish i had studied at school and got a trade. soeones getting rich on this

fluffpot

bordercars wrote: »

so lets get this straight, an electrician doing the job before part p now has an expense to be part p certified. he has no greater skill, yet can now charge more because a proficent person cannot do it there self.

gas man is the same. and then theres the bull about selleing your house. US MUG BARREL


wish i had studied at school and got a trade. soeones getting rich on this

Well, why don't you go back to college then and get your qualifications like I did - now I'm rolling in it! NOT!

Anyway - the Mr Electric quote sounds expensive. My standard charge for mid sized fuseboard upgrade to 17th edition (RCD) with all paperwork (I'm NICEIC) is £400 and I'm in London which is probably the most expensive area. I would rectify any minor faults as part of that fee.

Earth bonding to gas and water must be in place before any electrical work can be done.

So yes, original quote seems high - best to get some more

sparky883

Homeserve always say you need a new consumer unit then they pass the work to Mr Electric and both make money by scaring the consumer.
half the time thier insurance will be invalid as your electrics dont come up to scratch.Its all a money making machine-nobody can make you have work done in your own home.
You should be able to get a board changed for £400-00inc by Part p company

baldelectrician

bordercars wrote: »

so lets get this straight, an electrician doing the job before part p now has an expense to be part p certified. he has no greater skill, yet can now charge more because a proficent person cannot do it there self.

gas man is the same. and then theres the bull about selleing your house. US MUG BARREL


wish i had studied at school and got a trade. soeones getting rich on this

You are missing the point- Part P (2004) brought electrical work in dwellings under building control (Scotland has had something in place under the 1959 Building Scotland Act)

The wiring regulations have required inspection and testing for years - since Februaury 1992.
It's all about proving competence and paperwork. Some electricains saw the light and have done this for years- some don't even posess test equipment. These ones are finding it harder to carry out a lot of work.

Part P is a sham- I could put the wife (remember she has only slept with a bald electricain and does not have any electrical qualifications or experience) through a Part P course and she would be able to sign off work in England and Wales - even with limited scope.
In Scotland the system requires the electrician to prove competence, and allows only for full scope therefore the electrician has the required skill - many do not but are still good electricains.

andrew-b

baldelectrician_taken_out_of_context wrote: »

remember she has only slept with a bald electrician..

...that's what she wants you to believe :rolleyes:..sorry mate couldn't resist!

If i could afford it i'd get Part P qualification myself....then i could do all my electrics and friends and family and legally sign it all off - would be interesting to see how long it would take to get a return on my investment in the course and testing equipment! Out of interest do many DIYers go on the part p courses with similar intentions?

Andy

baldelectrician

andrew-b wrote: »

...that's what she wants you to believe :rolleyes:..sorry mate couldn't resist!

If i could afford it i'd get Part P qualification myself....then i could do all my electrics and friends and family and legally sign it all off - would be interesting to see how long it would take to get a return on my investment in the course and testing equipment! Out of interest do many DIYers go on the part p courses with similar intentions?

Andy

I don't hear of any DIY'ers doing the courses as living in Scotland part P is irrelevant. The council wouldn't accept their paperwork.

sparky883

We quoted a shower electrical installation last week and the customer was Part P registered so i asked why was he wasting my time and he said he was not, just did not know how to connect shower???
Part P does not mean your Electrician is any good.Try using one of the "rated people" sites and see what jokers you get to reply!!

baldelectrician

sparky883 wrote: »

We quoted a shower electrical installation last week and the customer was Part P registered so i asked why was he wasting my time and he said he was not, just did not know how to connect shower???
Part P does not mean your Electrician is any good.Try using one of the "rated people" sites and see what jokers you get to reply!!

I have learned not to go into a lot of detail when quoting works

I give a price and and an outline of the job. I don't go into detail and don't itemise the materails.

chodura

I got quotes £4,700 incl VAT for a complete 3 bedroom flat rewire to existing lighting and power points complete with a new consumer unit and earth bonding. The works should take 1 week. We are shocked at the cost.

Or we could get the following remedial works done at the cost of £3,331.13 incl VAT. These quotes are for a flat in south east London.
1. to supply and install 2 No. main protective conductors to the incoming Gas and Water Services (£270 + VAT)
2. to rewire the kitchen 2 No. 13 Amp socket outlets (£405 + VAT)
3. to supply and install 3 No. additional 13 Amp double switched socket outlets in the kitchen (£608 + VAT)
4. to rewire the existing exterior luminaire (£270 + VAT)
5. to replace the exisitng bathroom luminaire for an appropriate luminaire (£180 + VAT)
6. to supply 3 No supplementary earth bonding in the property (£203 + VAT)
7. to rectify 5 No. incomplete lighting fitting (£169 + VAT)
8. to supply and fit 9 No. earth links from 13 Amp socket outlets plates and back boxes (£135 + VAT)
9 and 10. to replace the existing consumer unit with a new isolated dual RCD 10 way split load and 10 No MCBs consumer unit (£595 + VAT).

We think it's too much. What would be the fair quote for a complete rewire for a 3 bedroom flat in south east London? Thanks

baldelectrician

I am definately in the wrong area.

I charge less than the cost of the remedials for a full house rewire, never mind a flat.