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Rules and Regulations

Ive been scouring the net and cant seem to find what im looking for.

Is there anywhere I can find a list of "Rules and Regulations" for rental accomodation?

I ask this because one internal door in my daughters rental property is glazed, this is made up from 4 single (i presume) glazed panels measuring approx 1 - 1 1/2 foot tall by 2 - 2 1/2 foot wide. Isnt it a regulation that all glass below a certain level eg, low glazed windows, glazed coffee tables etc has to be safety (toughened) glass?

Am I cheeky asking the LL to replace this glass (or will my daughter be eligible for the cost) because I tend to see accidents before they happen and my daughter has a 9 month old son who has just started toddling.
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  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    It's sort of building regs I spose but I can't find it anywhere at the moment - so not sure.

    Have you looked very closely? We had BC man out and he couldn't see the markings and it was only eagle eyes me spotted them - they are really subtle sometimes.

    You could ask the landlord if he would change the door - I'd expect most to say no though. A new wooden door is not that dear and you could fit it yourself perhaps - keep the old door to put back on or ask the landlord to store it.
  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    poppysarah wrote: »
    It's sort of building regs I spose but I can't find it anywhere at the moment - so not sure.

    Have you looked very closely? We had BC man out and he couldn't see the markings and it was only eagle eyes me spotted them - they are really subtle sometimes.

    You could ask the landlord if he would change the door - I'd expect most to say no though. A new wooden door is not that dear and you could fit it yourself perhaps - keep the old door to put back on or ask the landlord to store it.

    Thanks Poppy, if you come accross anything can you post a link?

    Im pretty sure, its not toughened not checked for marks as yet but will do. Its the old type of door so im assuming its the original or pre- regulation glass. A full wooden door would take out a lot of light so not sure if thats an option.
    I will ask the LL but if its part of building regs, then I would have thought he would have to replace it.
  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    You could give building control a ring at the council. They're bound to know... :)
  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    I found this under Building regs

    Part N - Glazing - safety in relation to impact, opening and cleaning

    but cannot find more info, will try the council
  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    From elsewhere:
    Yup. MUST be toughened safety glass. In fact all glass used these days
    in a house has to be unless the pane size is very small as in e.g.
    leaded lights or small framed panels..the issue is people falling
    through and being literally cut to ribbons.


    Your local glazier will be able to advise on correct thickness and
    standards.
  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    Nicky321 wrote: »
    I found this under Building regs

    Part N - Glazing - safety in relation to impact, opening and cleaning

    but cannot find more info, will try the council

    I don't think building regs can be applied retrospectively.
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,751 Ambassador
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    If it complied with the regulations in place when the door/ glass was fitted, there is no obligation to change things. We recently broke a glass panel in a door and the glazier said that he was replacing it with toughenend glass as that was the regulations now, but the remaining panels don't need to be changed.

    You can buy plastic stuff that you seal onto the glass with a hair dryer that stops it sharding (SP?) if it breaks.
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  • Part N Building Regulations 1991 (1998 Issue) Section 1 Protection against Impact

    Critical Locations in terms of safety are areas between finished floor level and 1500mm above ffl in a door or side panel. So any glazing in this zone is classed as 'critical'.

    'Reducing the risks' Glazing in critical locations should either break safely or be robust in small panes or be permanently protected.

    It needs to be 'toughened' glass or 12-15mm thick annealed glass for the size your stating (I don't understand inches i work in millimeters! :D)
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  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    bryanb wrote: »
    I don't think building regs can be applied retrospectively.
    I can understand that in private homes, but surely the landlord has a duty to provide a safe enviroment.
  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    Nicky321 wrote: »
    I can understand that in private homes, but surely the landlord has a duty to provide a safe enviroment.

    Yes of course but not under the building regs.
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
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