huge problem pleaSE need some help

Keith

Wig wrote: »

Be warned even to tow a car you need the car to be taxed, so if you get stopped by plod you will recieve a fine. If you do not return the car or tax it you must remove it from the road and declare it SORN.

Sorry Wig,

Do you mean Insurance?

I'm thinking MOT failed car, car towed on road to get to garage for repairs = legal.

Surely car on road without tax being taken to a place of repair must be legal?

Or should they be taxed in both cases, which raises the old no mot = no tax debate.

Confused :eek:

astraea

it has tax mot and insurance, i am fully comp so does that cover the car been towed to a garage?

so should i take him up on his offer??

Keith

I'd go for it, but ask for it to be independantly inspected by an independant/motoring organisation after the repair.

ozvaldinho

If you're so skint, surely third party fire and theft would've been a better idea on an £800 car? Your comprehensive insurance would take one look at pretty much any significant accident and call it a total loss, you'd get back £500 or less and your premium would shoot up.

£200 is a good deal for the work being done. Assuming it's a petrol and not a diesel, most people would just replace the gasket as they often fail at this age on french cars. Flushing the oil and radiator is easy. I'd be more worried about the car only firing on three cylinders...I suspect that a broken piston or rings is what caused the gasket to fail in which case your car is only good for spares or scrap. I'm being pessimistic here, mind you, it could be a simple problem with the electrics in the ignition system which are cheap and easy to fix.

Good luck mate!

LandyAndy

ozvaldinho wrote: »

If you're so skint, surely third party fire and theft would've been a better idea on an £800 car? Your comprehensive insurance would take one look at pretty much any significant accident and call it a total loss, you'd get back £500 or less and your premium would shoot up.

Not always. My car is worth about £400 but TPFT wouldn't be much cheaper than FC (FC was under £200 last year) and it meant I had full cover this year when I went to France in it at no extra cost.

albionrovers

Can a dealer still go bust and begin trading the next day again?

In the old days, if it went to court and the dealer did do this then the buyer loses out, end of.

Road_Hog

astraea wrote: »

hi spoke to the man i got the car from again
he is offering to tow the car to his garage about 35 miles away he said he can get it all done for about £200 including getting it skimmed pressure tested new bolts and new cam belt. is it possible to do it for this price?

he said he will give me the name of the garage and that he will get me a reciept stating whats been done. and that he will go halves.

My gut instinct would be not to trust someone that has already tried to have one over on you. I think he'll get a tube of head gasket sealant and do a patch up job. You won't know that the cambelt hasn't been changed because it will probably be under a cover. The new bolts are a ruse and it will go something like this.

Right Mrs. astraea, it's all done for you, stuck the new cambelt on, that's the belt thing underneath that cover, skimmed the head, so it's all sorted and sealed it up with special head gasket sealant to make sure it's sealed proper, see all that sealant round that top line, thats it there. And there's the shiney new bolts I promised I'd fit (to make it look like we had taken the head off).

Here's your guarantee, that guarantees that it will get you home (I hope) and thanks very much for another £100, you mug, that's the most expensive set of bolts and gasket sealant I've ever sold.

Call me a cynic, but I just can't see someone suddenly turning honest. The above may not be 100% spot on but it is a typical scenario I can see happening.

anewman

albionrovers wrote: »

Can a dealer still go bust and begin trading the next day again?

In the old days, if it went to court and the dealer did do this then the buyer loses out, end of.

Not if they aren't a proper dealer in the first place trading off their driveway.

In the OP's case I agree with roadhog. I'd be after taking it to my own garage and splitting the cost 75 me 25 them than let them spend a fiver and 10 minutes bodging it up, and parting with money for the privilege. If you think about it, the seller should have no problem with this suggestion if they are an honest seller and it's not costing them more than the £100 they've already agreed to part with. I think he's trying to get you round his finger realising you won't get repairs cheaper than £200 elsewhere - hoping you'll think you're getting a good deal.

cheekyherb

Road_Hog wrote: »

My gut instinct would be not to trust someone that has already tried to have one over on you. I think he'll get a tube of head gasket sealant and do a patch up job. You won't know that the cambelt hasn't been changed because it will probably be under a cover. The new bolts are a ruse and it will go something like this.

Right Mrs. astraea, it's all done for you, stuck the new cambelt on, that's the belt thing underneath that cover, skimmed the head, so it's all sorted and sealed it up with special head gasket sealant to make sure it's sealed proper, see all that sealant round that top line, thats it there. And there's the shiney new bolts I promised I'd fit (to make it look like we had taken the head off).

Here's your guarantee, that guarantees that it will get you home (I hope) and thanks very much for another £100, you mug, that's the most expensive set of bolts and gasket sealant I've ever sold.

Call me a cynic, but I just can't see someone suddenly turning honest. The above may not be 100% spot on but it is a typical scenario I can see happening.

I got to agree with Rod Hog, if this bloke has ripped you off why would you even consider taking it back to him to get fixed? Firstly, I would contact Auto Trader and report him, if he is a trader than he has to repair the car under the trade descriptions act, not at his garage but at a garage of your choice - he can fork out for it tho!. He has to provide the car in the state he quoted in his advert (my father is a motor trader). Go back to this bloke and tell him you want it repaired, for free to the standard as listed in his advert. Then i would also report him to trading standards...

WHY oh why did you not take someone with you to look at the car initially??
You would be such a fool to take it back to him. Once burnt and all that!

Wig

Keith wrote: »

Sorry Wig,

Do you mean Insurance?

I'm thinking MOT failed car, car towed on road to get to garage for repairs = legal.

The only exception to the requirement for valid MOT and VED is to and from an MOT appointment. There are no other "normal use" exceptions. By "normal use" I mean that there are other exceptions like armed forces vehicles, and imported vehicles from the port of entry to your home etc etc.

With no MOT and OR VED:
From home to a place of repair = illegal
From home to a place of repair for to get ready for an MOT = illegal
From home to an MOT appt = legal
From an MOT appointment to home = legal
From an MOT appt to a place of repair (by prior arrangement) = legal
From a place of repair to home = illegal
From a place of repair (following MOT repairs) to home = illegal
From a place of repair to an MOT appt = legal

In short to or from an MOT appt is the only time it is legal. Just another example of our crazy laws on VED.

Surely car on road without tax being taken to a place of repair must be legal?

From an MOT appointment is the only time it is legal

Or should they be taxed in both cases, which raises the old no mot = no tax debate.

Not in both cases, to or from an MOT appt is legal.