friend so upset re renting

KiKi

I concur with others here.

However, this all seems rather premature.

All the LL has asked for is the number of the charity shop. There's nothing from the OP to suggest that the LL is going to take it from the deposit or anything like that. The OP doesn't even say that the LL disputes this.

All the LL has done is ask for the number of the charity shop, so your friend should pass it on. If the LL decides to take issue with it, then the inventory is the key, but I'm not sure this is a problem, yet?

HTH!
KiKi

Captain_Mainwaring_2

facingthefuture wrote: »

Hi there, she actually gave it to this guy who had suffered a breakdown and was just recovering, he had hardly any furniture. She could ask for it back but she just said it would be really lousy.
Incidentally, there was no inventory. The last 2 months she had no shower and the heating was broken so you could only turn it on for an hour.

Well OK, by the looks of things if she doesn't get it back then she will have hardly any furniture, it would seem to be an easy choice to me.

tbs624

KiKi wrote: »

IAll the LL has asked for is the number of the charity shop. There's nothing from the OP to suggest that the LL is going to take it from the deposit or anything like that. The OP doesn't even say that the LL disputes this.

All the LL has done is ask for the number of the charity shop, so your friend should pass it on. If the LL decides to take issue with it, then the inventory is the key, but I'm not sure this is a problem, yet?

Think you maybe missed this bit from the OP:

facingthefuture wrote: »

.... she actually gave it to this guy who had suffered a breakdown and was just recovering, he had hardly any furniture. She could ask for it back but she just said it would be really lousy. .

so giving the charity shop number wouldn't be much help.

The fact that there was no inventory will make it harder for the LL to quibble on it all, but I agree with Bogof_Babe - I think I'd tryher suggestion initially, rather than getting locked into a dispute unnecessarily. Too late for the OP but to any other tenants - get these sorts of things in writing to cover yourself, always.

KiKi

tbs624 wrote: »

Think you maybe missed this bit from the OP: so giving the charity shop number wouldn't be much help.

Sorry, yes, I hadn't seen that second post.

I appreciate the LL has put the tenant in a difficult position, but now I've seen that second post...she chose to lie about what she did with the furniture, and now she's created a difficult position for herself.

The options:
Tell the truth, and refuse to ask the friend for it back.
Tell the truth and ask the friend for it back.
Continue the lie, give a charity shop number which is false, and fall back on the inventory if it all goes wrong.

I think the LL asking for it back when he said to get rid of it is very daft, and he can't expect it back - and I can understand the friend being upset about that.

But it seems that perhaps some of the friend's upsetness is also because she lied, and has now backed herself into a corner and will have to continue the lie which will be more stressful for her.

KiKi

paddy's_mum

Hold on a moment there, KiKi. I don't believe the OP has told lies. The Landlord told her to get rid of the furniture via a charity shop, so that was his suggestion. What she actually did was give it to a friend who was in need, so that was her response.

From what I read, it is the landlord who assumes that his suggestion was followed to the letter and that is why he is now asking for the charity shop telephone number.

A little premature to be accusing the OP of lying, don't you think?

Chopsie&Chelvis

facingthefuture wrote: »

They have now come backing asking for the first piece of furniture saying it belonged to someone else and it shouldn't have been given away and can she tell them the no of the charity shop?
Friend is fuming, she knows they told her to get rid of them but they did it verbally

That sounds like the email refers to the fact that they asked her to get rid of it? Surely that would be evidence enough to prove that she didn't do it off her own back if they took her to court?

Captain_Mainwaring_2

paddy's_mum wrote: »

Hold on a moment there, KiKi. I don't believe the OP has told lies. The Landlord told her to get rid of the furniture via a charity shop, so that was his suggestion. What she actually did was give it to a friend who was in need, so that was her response.

From what I read, it is the landlord who assumes that his suggestion was followed to the letter and that is why he is now asking for the charity shop telephone number.

A little premature to be accusing the OP of lying, don't you think?

Lying by saying nothing. Why not just say that she had given the furniture to her friend rather than say nothing? Not unreasonable in this case to assume that she wnt through with her original chosen course of action.

Seem to be a load of fuss over nothing really, we haven't confirmed that the LL will get cross and make deductions, and in any case we can get the offending item back - can't see any particular problem myself.

Obviously the value of the post is to remind everyone that in the event of any material change to the property, obtain written clearance from the LL.

Captain_Mainwaring_2

LaurenManchester wrote: »

That sounds like the email refers to the fact that they asked her to get rid of it? Surely that would be evidence enough to prove that she didn't do it off her own back if they took her to court?

OP wrote:

She had just received an email from the ll of the house she just moved out of.

Actually, the more you read the post, it would seem that the landlord has said nothing to the detriment of the tenant, but has realised that they (the LL) have made a mistake, and are just asking for assistance, lord knows what all the tears are about.

KiKi

paddy's_mum wrote: »

A little premature to be accusing the OP of lying, don't you think?

Hi there

If I'm wrong then I apologise, but I wasn't being arsey, that was genuinely how I read the situation from the information we have.

If you're right, and he told her to take it to a charity shop (rather than her telling him that's what she did) - and he is now asking for the number - then that's even better. Because that means the LL has acknowledged in an email he asked her to do that a year ago.

So if you're correct then there's no issue with him having her 'hefty' deposit - and I don't see why the LLs are being labelled as 'really horrible people' - it seems that they're simply asking for help in getting the item back. So to answer the OP's question about her legal position, surely she now has the evidence to back it up, *should* it come to it.

Either way, the worse case scenario seems to be that she has to apologise and ask the friend for the furniture back, saying a mistake was made by her LL, and there are no legal implications for her.

KiKi