Short selling lies

poppy10_2

Without taking inflation into account:

SecLender

Here is a very good document on short selling, I suggest you all read it...


http://www.isla.co.uk/docs/Why%20asset%20management%20arms%20of%20banks%20should%20continue%20to%20lend%20bank%20shares.pdf

sabretoothtigger

Depressingly similar to the american figures then, I bet ours wont fall back quite as much though

turbobob

SecLender wrote: »

Here is a very good document on short selling, I suggest you all read it...


http://www.isla.co.uk/docs/Why%20asset%20management%20arms%20of%20banks%20should%20continue%20to%20lend%20bank%20shares.pdf

A very interesting read. Thanks :cool:

esbo

SecLender wrote: »

Here is a very good document on short selling, I suggest you all read it...


http://www.isla.co.uk/docs/Why%20asset%20management%20arms%20of%20banks%20should%20continue%20to%20lend%20bank%20shares.pdf

That sound like a load of bull to me.
There is nothing in there which to me supports the validity of share lending and those graphs show that the fall in price of HBOS show that share lending caused it.
The explanitions given to seem to add up and appear largly rubbish.
But then what would expect from the chief exec of the share lending association?

"Well without share lending we would not have made a fortune out of the HBOS share price drop"? - I don't think so somehow!! :rotfl:

It's all garbage. Stopping share lending would cause no problems whatsoever, if people needed the shares they could jolly well buy them like everyone else has too.
Who knows, the price might actualy go up!!

His mumbo jumbo does not fool me - what a plonker!! :beer:

An absolute load of tosh.

GordonGecko

Esbo - You still have yet to fully explain how you have come to your conclusion on 'Short Selling' - Bad experience, poor advice or hands on knowledge?

Do you care to comment on the drop in B&B (Bradford & Bingley) despite no short selling going on then yesterday?

esbo

GordonGecko wrote: »

Esbo - You still have yet to fully explain how you have come to your conclusion on 'Short Selling' - Bad experience, poor advice or hands on knowledge?

Do you care to comment on the drop in B&B (Bradford & Bingley) despite no short selling going on then yesterday?

You can see from the HBOS graph, it is like an X, fallinng share price and rising stock lending.
Obviously the B&B shares dropped in value due to the break-down in talks in the USA about giving $700 billion to some of the most imcompetent, corrupt and overpaid people in the history of the planet. Obviously the stocks were marked down before start of trading so the vultures missed out.

SecLender

esbo wrote:

You can see from the HBOS graph, it is like an X, fallinng share price and rising stock lending.

Correlation is not the same as causation.

isla wrote:

Those who argue that short sellers can drive a share price below its fair value
need to explain why other investors do not take that buying opportunity.

This is the fundamental question that needs to be answered by detractors of short selling...

tradetime

esbo wrote: »

That sound like a load of bull to me.
There is nothing in there which to me supports the validity of share lending and those graphs show that the fall in price of HBOS show that share lending caused it.
The explanitions given to seem to add up and appear largly rubbish.
But then what would expect from the chief exec of the share lending association?

"Well without share lending we would not have made a fortune out of the HBOS share price drop"? - I don't think so somehow!! :rotfl:

It's all garbage. Stopping share lending would cause no problems whatsoever, if people needed the shares they could jolly well buy them like everyone else has too.
Who knows, the price might actualy go up!!

His mumbo jumbo does not fool me - what a plonker!! :beer:

An absolute load of tosh.

Blah blah blah, if you don't like the markets don't play in them, really simple.
Big boys rules for big boys games.

esbo

tradetime wrote: »

Blah blah blah, if you don't like the markets don't play in them, really simple.
Big boys rules for big boys games.

I think you will be finding that a lot of the 'big boys' are about to have their balls chopped off.