Would you eat this?

Bunny200

floyd wrote: »

If you like to know the science I can give you a nerd fact that might help.
I routinely use E.coli that have been kept frozen at -80 degrees (normal freezer is warmer at -20) for many months. I brought some up from frozen a few months ago that had been there since 1982 and they grew like wildfire when defrosted and fed. So I can safely confirm that freezing will not completely kill E.coli, it just puts them to sleep and around 15% will die.

This info about salmonella may also be helpful

" Salmonellae are able to survive long periods of refrigeration and freezing, although the freezing process may kill some of the bacteria. They can also survive in dry conditions, for example within foods such as chocolate. Salmonellae are killed by high temperatures, and heat treatment of food (pasteurisation, for example) is an effective control method, and commonly used to ensure products such as milk, hard cheese and processed eggs are free of contamination. However, to ensure food safety, the exact time at a particular temperature required depends on both the Salmonella strain and the nature of the food itself. Typical requirements are 60?C for 2-6 minutes or 70?C for under one minute."

Taken from here http://www.animalpharmnews.com/magnoliaPublic/ap/reports/2003/chapter1/salmonella-market-opps-animal-health-industry.html

I assume this is in some work capacity, otherwise I'm not coming round yours for dinner!!!!:eek: lol!

whatatwit

If I had made it, then I would eat it....but I wouldn't give any away (just in case)
Do you know if your friend has re-heated the whole panful herself, or just ladled some out to nuke for herself Then I would be binning it.

floyd

heh heh yes it is, its probably why I have got a bit of a cleanliness OCD as well

scrivette

If it were me I would eat it, but I would make sure that it thoroughly heated before I ate it.

SPANIEL36

me personally wouldn't eat it, i had a curry last week, only ate half, waited for rest to cool before freezing it, i them re-heated it to boiling capacity before eating it., i'm always very wary of chicken too

Valley's_girl

Hi I have to agree I wouldn't eat it, its not worth the risk.
Ally x

[Deleted User]

yes I would eat it but first made sure it was piping hot and bubbling. I grew up during the last war and the post war austerity meant that we ate virtually anything. As long as it didn't walk off the plate it was eaten. My Mum managed to raise three children without the benefit of a freezer,fridge,best by dates or best before dates, and we all survived o.k.
Cheese or Jam that had a bit of mould on it was scraped off and then used normally .We couldn't afford to be too fussy.I think you would survive o.k. My Mums stew pot seemed to be constantly on when I was a kid

OrkneyStar

floyd wrote: »

heh heh yes it is, its probably why I have got a bit of a cleanliness OCD as well

LOL I used to work in a lab and grew all sorts of interesting cells, including yeast and bacteria. They can be quite resiliant chappies- my bench was always spotless and as a result guess how pernickety I am about my work tops at home.
To go back on topic, I would agree, heating it through well (high enough)should be fine, many curry spices and herbs would help prevent bacteria growth (I think, and certainly other posters seem to know about this), but if in doubt don't eat it.

misskool

floyd wrote: »

If you like to know the science I can give you a nerd fact that might help.
I routinely use E.coli that have been kept frozen at -80 degrees (normal freezer is warmer at -20) for many months. I brought some up from frozen a few months ago that had been there since 1982 and they grew like wildfire when defrosted and fed. So I can safely confirm that freezing will not completely kill E.coli, it just puts them to sleep and around 15% will die.

It all depends on what else you freeze the bacteria with. If you freeze it in a very aqueous environment (lots of water) then you are likely to have a low recovery rate as the water molecules will break their phospholipid bilayer.

/end uber geek mode

If the curry has been reheated THOROUGHLY, I'd eat it.

noonesperfect

I won't give it to my OH anyhow, as he is on a daily tablet which blocks stomach acid - leaving him prone to such nasties!
If I can summon the courage I'll eat it.

I don't know how long it will sit on her stove, maybe she froze the rest after I left. But I know her granddaughter who's staying with had a portion on Tuesday afternoon and as far as I know has lived to tell the tale!

You do have to wary of these bugs. My own feeling is that you get used to "your own bacteria" so to speak, but "strangers" can quickly cause tummy bugs.

Believe it or not a holiday tummy bug can very occasionally lead to post infective IBS.