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Paypal refund when funds have been withdrawn???

I need to issue a refund to my Ebay buyer, but have already withdrawn the funds from Paypal.
I get this message, when I try to complete the refund

Note: If your PayPal account balance doesn't have enough money in it to cover this refund, money will be automatically transferred from your backup funding source

However, it doesn't give me the option to fund the refund this way. It just has a cancel or edit button below this message!!
Any ideas??
When life throws you lemons...put them in a gin and tonic !!

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  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    Put enough funds into your paypal account to cover the refund, check your card has been updated if it has been renewed thant can cause problems.
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  • Put enough funds into your paypal account to cover the refund, check your card has been updated if it has been renewed thant can cause problems.

    It can take up to 7 days for funds to be transferred from bank account.
    Is there not a quicker way??
    When life throws you lemons...put them in a gin and tonic !!
  • dotchas
    dotchas Posts: 2,487 Forumite
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    Do you have a friend/partner with an account who could pay you some money by paypal so you have sufficient funds in your account?
    Obviously then pay them back:rotfl:
    :j I love bargains:j
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  • jayok
    jayok Posts: 753 Forumite
    This happened to me and the only way to refund was to load money from my bank account which took nearly a week. I explained the situation to my buyer and luckily they were happy.
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    It can take up to 7 days for funds to be transferred from bank account.
    Is there not a quicker way??


    Chaech your card is up to date?
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  • greeneye
    greeneye Posts: 801 Forumite
    Paypal will only let you refund (i.e return payment without orgianl sender incurring paypal fees) if you have enough in your paypal balance.
    As has been pointed out above transferring funds from your bank account can take up to 7 days.

    Previously if you decided not to wait and just sent a payment to your buyer via a card payment your buyer would incurr paypal fees for recieving the money.

    BUT

    Paypal have recently introduced an option (on the send money page) to send money to friends as a gift or loan etc where the person recieving the transfer incurrs no fees.

    Not sure exactly where you would stand if your buyer filed a claim for non reciept in this situation but as there's a clear money trail I can't really see a problem.
  • dotchas
    dotchas Posts: 2,487 Forumite
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    greeneye wrote: »
    Paypal will only let you refund (i.e return payment without orgianl sender incurring paypal fees) if you have enough in your paypal balance.
    As has been pointed out above transferring funds from your bank account can take up to 7 days.

    Previously if you decided not to wait and just sent a payment to your buyer via a card payment your buyer would incurr paypal fees for recieving the money.

    BUT

    Paypal have recently introduced an option (on the send money page) to send money to friends as a gift or loan etc where the person recieving the transfer incurrs no fees.

    Not sure exactly where you would stand if your buyer filed a claim for non reciept in this situation but as there's a clear money trail I can't really see a problem.

    It wouldn't be connected to the auction though so would not stand as proof of a refund.

    The easiest way is to get a friend to send some money to you via Paypal
    :j I love bargains:j
    I love MSE
  • greeneye
    greeneye Posts: 801 Forumite
    Dear XXXXX XXXXX

    XXXXXX just sent you money with PayPal.

    XXXXXX is a Verified buyer.


    Payment Details

    Amount: £200.00 GBP

    Transaction ID: 3584685XXXXX203N

    Subject: Refund for ebay item number 213456783XXX.


    Well above is what your buyer will recieve via email. And you can select "personal payment owed" as reason for money sent. Your buyer would have to be pretty savvy to figure out this wasn't an actual refund on the original paypal transaction ID.
    And paypal would have to be unbelievably rigid in their policies to uphold an item not recieved dispute given the evidence - but hey I don't think anyone could accuse paypal of being flexible ;+)
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 75,425 Ambassador
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    It will be very obvious this isn't a refund as the original payment will still be showing as 'live' in the buyers paypal. Also paypal *are* that rigid with their policies.
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