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Have you been a victim of the internet premium rate dial-up fraud?

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I saw this on BBC2 this evening in a programme about a premium rate dial up scam where victims have had (unknowingly to them) a rogue dialer installed on their computer which then dials up premium rate numbers landing them with bills for hundreds of pounds.
It seems that they can't get any redress from BT or anybody else for that matter. They have banded together to help themselves.
If you have been a victim why don't you join them? You never know you might get your money back. Click the link http://www.premiumratescam.co.uk/
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  • wobbley
    wobbley Posts: 1,965 Forumite
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    I had one of these a couple of years ago. Fortunately it was at about 2pm on Boxing Day and we knew for a fact that we were out and the PC was definately off when the call was supposed to have been made. I stood my ground with BT and eventually got my money (about £22) refunded. When I inspected there was a rogue dailler installed but the time on the BT bill may have been wrong or something. As it's BT (I think) that issue these premium numbers, there should be more stringent checks in place to ensure they are not getting abused. In my mind it's like giving fottball fans baseball bats on their way into the match. Then whinging when violence erupts.
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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    If you have Windows XP then you can download software from BT to stop your computer being hijacked. Details here:- http://www.btmodemprotection.com/
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Heinz
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    trisontana wrote:
    If you have Windows XP then you can download software from BT to stop your computer being hijacked. Details here:- http://www.btmodemprotection.com/
    But that's only necessary for dial-up users - it doesn't affect broadband users.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • trisontana
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    Heinz wrote:
    But that's only necessary for dial-up users - it doesn't affect broadband users.
    That's what this whole thread is about , rogue diallers. It's nothing to do with broadband!
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • iwanttosave_2
    iwanttosave_2 Posts: 34,292 Forumite
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    i got a warning off my virus protection service the other day that an auto dialer tried to make my modem dial a premium rate number, thank god i have good protection
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  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,602 Forumite
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    if you want to check your PC is clean or protect it then read

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  • this happened to me, bt wouldnt refund the money. I have all 090 numbers barred from my phone so it cant dial up again- although on broadband now so it aint relevant lol
  • Backbiter
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    This is just theft, pure and simple IMO. Some company instals something sceretly on an piece of equipment IN YOUR OWN HOME. Something that you didn't ask for or want and had zero knowledge of. This then hijacks your modem and forces it to make calls to a number you have no knowledge of, overriding the dialup number that you wish to be used to connect you to the net.
    A major British company is aware that this is happening, and indeed is implicated in that it issues premium numbers to these companies whose sole raison d'etre is to make money out of people who are unaware they are being ripped off. And yet this major company won't give redress to the victims of this scam.
    Is this not a scandal? Am I missing something as to why these rogue diallers should be allowed to exist with BT's compliance/ connivance?
    I've not had the misfortune to be a victim myself, but this still makes me seethe just reading about it.
  • Yes Backbiter, you're missing the point that it's not BT (or any other company) who are responsible for ensuring that people use their computers properly.

    If you get a dialler on your machine then it's YOUR fault and you are responsible for the bill. If you don't know how to work a computer then perhaps it's best to not own one, otherwise pay for your mistakes like a grown up.

    (The references to "you" here are not directed at any individual btw, it's like the royal "we"!)
  • i think it is the phone providers fault really these numbers are rented out with the knowledge that they are not legal as long as they get their money they are not bothered.... these dialers can get on your pc without your knowledge and dial whenenever they want it to.whether the pc is on or off. broadband users can be targeted too if their modem is still attached.i have been stung but it was a small amount(£50) and the company was fined and told to pay everyone back it had falsely charged, little did icstis know the company had moved so no fine was paid, and noone was paid out either!!!! :mad:
    spanky xx

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