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Average House will loose 26k in 2008 !!!

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  • LOL, before moving in with my parents DH and I had a dinner party at least once a fortnight....I'm not saying we are not self important:o , but that we will probably keep going to dinner parties.;)

    Come on how many new cars, and 50" plasma screens, and johny can poo on his own now look!:eek: have you seen now.:D .
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Come on how many new cars, and 50" plasma screens, and johny can poo on his own now look!:eek: have you seen now.:D .

    Hm, well, cars are usually in the garages, tvs in neither drawing room nor dining rooms where we tend to go ;) and children rarely up....but when they are I quite like them.
  • RichOneday_2
    RichOneday_2 Posts: 4,403 Forumite
    This is becoming entertaining now - there you see, its a lot better when people get on and stop squabbling. :j:T
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    Blackpool Marathon 11/4/2010 (Target=2:59:59) (6:52/mile)
    Abingdon Marathon 17/10/2010, (Target=2:48:57) (6:27/mile)
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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    RichOneday wrote: »
    This is becoming entertaining now - there you see, its a lot better when people get on and stop squabbling. :j:T

    I pretty much always get on with most posters here. The others I let chase their own tails (reminds me, erroneously, of the phrase why have a dog and do your own barking)
  • RichOneday wrote: »
    This is becoming entertaining now - there you see, its a lot better when people get on and stop squabbling. :j:T

    Shut up you do gooder:D .:rotfl:
  • RichOneday_2
    RichOneday_2 Posts: 4,403 Forumite
    Shut up you do gooder:D .:rotfl:


    I knew it was too good to last! :mad::mad:
    Gt NW 1/2 Marathon 21/2/2010 (Target=1:22:59) (6:20/mile) 1:22:47 (6:19):j:j
    Blackpool Marathon 11/4/2010 (Target=2:59:59) (6:52/mile)
    Abingdon Marathon 17/10/2010, (Target=2:48:57) (6:27/mile)
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    RichOneday wrote: »
    Erm, not quite. It will give the impression that the 'rate of fall' is bottoming out, not that the market is bottoming out.
    Same thing, we are talking about perceptions here e.g. if the annual falls go Aug 10%, Sept 6%, Oct 3% (obviously exaggerated) the perceptions of Newspapers (i.e. the minds of the great British public) may switch from crash to soon to recover.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • RichOneday_2
    RichOneday_2 Posts: 4,403 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Same thing, we are talking about perceptions here e.g. if the annual falls go Aug 10%, Sept 6%, Oct 3% (obviously exaggerated) the perceptions of Newspapers (i.e. the minds of the great British public) may switch from crash to soon to recover.

    No, no, no, no. At the moment the rate of fall is still INCREASING. We have got some way to go before the rate of fall stops increasing. The fall will bottom out when Dec2008=Dec2007 and Jan2009=Jan2008 but prices will still be falling in double digits Y-O-Y.

    As for any month being more positive, for want of a better phrase, than the same month in the previous year I think a telescope is needed to see that far ahead.
    Gt NW 1/2 Marathon 21/2/2010 (Target=1:22:59) (6:20/mile) 1:22:47 (6:19):j:j
    Blackpool Marathon 11/4/2010 (Target=2:59:59) (6:52/mile)
    Abingdon Marathon 17/10/2010, (Target=2:48:57) (6:27/mile)
    09/10 Race Results : http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=103461
    Racing Plans/Results - Post 3844 (page193)
  • ad44downey
    ad44downey Posts: 2,246 Forumite
    ultra10 wrote: »
    No Link because i've extrapolated this myself, according to Nationwides figures the break-down so far in 2008 is as follows ..
    Aug drop = £4662 :eek:
    July drop = £3099
    June drop = £1168
    May drop = £4972
    Apr drop= £555
    Mar drop= £248
    Feb drop= £1115
    Jan drop= £1607

    Total so far £ 17426 divided by 8 months is an average drop of £2178 per month....
    £2178 x 12 = £ 26139 is my analysis flawed, but as we are only just entering Recession I can't imagine anyone thinking property prices will bottom out by Christmas time !!! Also note the losses for the last 4 months as opposed to the first 4 months of 2008 !!! ... an indication of how great the total losses are going to be !!!! HUGE !!!
    Here's a spanner in the works? Apparently house prices have only fallen 2% in the last year and even went up in London? :eek:

    http://www1.landregistry.gov.uk/houseprices/

    Land Registry

    HPI News
    Annual house prices in England and Wales fell by 2 per cent in July to prices last seen in spring 2007. The average house price is £178,364, which is also a decrease month-on-month of 0.6 per cent from £179,455 in June.
    London was the only region in England and Wales to experience an increase in its average property value over the last 12 months, with a movement of 1.7 per cent taking the average London house price to £348,366. Both London and the North East experienced the highest monthly rises with increases of 0.7 per cent.
    Krusty & Phil Madoff, 1990 - 2007:
    "Buy now because house prices only ever go UP, UP, UP."
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    SteveJ, I know what you are saying, but even with both parents working a couple of interest rate hikes will make houses have to come down for the property market to ever get going again. I am not going to make or lose any money out of this situation. I have enough friends who are BTL's and they are very worried at the moment. These are real people, not just my own speculation. Some are paying parts of their mortgages as their fixed rates finished and the rent just doesn't cover it. Separate point I know, but people are very fickle. To an extent they will make the market continue to crash by talking it up and just simply not buying.

    I just can't see houses going back to the peaks they were at, not again. The people who str 6 months ago were very shrewd in my opinion.

    Where do you get the interest hikes from? interest rates will be reducing sharply soon ( possibly down by up to 2%) I can also see some of the Middle Eastern oil profits being used to buy UK banks at knockdown prices and thus creating more liquidity in the market. House prices were probably overpriced (the market is correcting, that is what markets do) but some of the hysterical claptrap that is bandied around is quite amusing ( 66% crash, really?)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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