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  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    moggylover wrote: »
    I just have to disagree - but I have 3' thick walls - stone and mud infill, and the rest of the house (i.e. roof and floor) are modern build. We really do not find it expensive to heat - and I am comparing my costs with those of the timber framed house opposite me.

    quote]

    Not quite your average house realy though.
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    It is just a house:
    Clydfan%205607.JPG

    Houses of the age to have 3' thick walls are highly unlikely to be "as original" so yeah - for a house of 250/60 years old it is average. Most of the old cottages around here have been renovated (not always quite as well as mine;) ) so you are going to get modern roofing and flooring - with almost all of them.
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
    (Herman Melville)
  • dopester
    dopester Posts: 4,890 Forumite
    moggylover wrote: »
    Property may fall in price - land often weathers it much better I think, certainly in the last housing crash (just after I moved down here)

    Crazy talk I think, if you are talking about development land. Development land prices will get battered, and I've read a few cases where people suffered hard on their land holdings in the early 90s.

    And they are even talking about 50% development land crash at the moment, which suggests much worse for what is to come.

    Telegraph August 2008
    Residential building land, one of the core assets of most housebuilders, plummeted in value by 20pc in the first six months of the year and could fall by up to 50pc before the current slump is over.
  • You are just a badge snob, just stop making stupid statements. A car is a form of transport that goes from A to B..

    One last thing on this (and I mean last thing,,,,).

    Blimey, you sir/madam, (my money is on a madam,
    because you talk of a car as a mode of transport as apposed to a weekend toy/plaything)
    and your woeful lack of building skills, (your mate was a site manager) big deal, (a person who works and makes sure that low budget, poor quality, minimum building regs, pile of no windows, limited storage, copied style, won't last 50 years) is a benchmark of quality.
    Hmmmm, think not. Oh yes,, You have a worthtless NHBC house guarantee. Yeah, good luck trying to claim on it. Admit it, you would never like to live next to your neighbours in their indentikit faux tudor/georgian/edwardian* *insert as appropriate). As youor login name suggests, you have already done this. You have also shown that your serious lack of mechanical engineering impairs you choice of car.

    If you fancy taking your obviously superior rmotor vehicular knowledge any further, please PM me and we take this subject further on a motoring or a building forum.
  • dopester
    dopester Posts: 4,890 Forumite
    Ionkontrol wrote: »
    (your mate was a site manager) big deal, (a person who works and makes sure that low budget, poor quality, minimum building regs, pile of no windows, limited storage, copied style, won't last 50 years) is a benchmark of quality.
    Hmmmm, think not. Oh yes,, You have a worthtless NHBC house guarantee. Yeah, good luck trying to claim on it.

    Love it. :T
  • Imp
    Imp Posts: 1,035 Forumite
    Build cost of 120m^2 three bed house comprising of

    Basement - kitchen/diner/utility room
    Ground floor - Living room
    First floor - Three bedrooms and bathroom

    Total build cost - £135,877.

    Of which £39,000 are for the basement.

    £25,000 of the build costs are the builder's profit/overhead

    Generally, depending upon the house design, specification, region etc etc build costs are £650 - £1200 per sqr metre.
  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    dopester wrote: »
    Crazy talk I think, if you are talking about development land. Development land prices will get battered, and I've read a few cases where people suffered hard on their land holdings in the early 90s.

    And they are even talking about 50% development land crash at the moment, which suggests much worse for what is to come.

    Telegraph August 2008

    We were actually talking more about agri-land with possible planning permission for one build.

    However, the rest of the scenario may well have been true for any development land that HAD to be sold - my experience in this locality is that people just did not sell until prices went up again. Mind, we seldom have "development" land in the way I suspect you refer to it: most of the building around here is individual houses (mostly self-build) and occasionally a three or four house cul-de sac type development. A dozen houses is considered a BIG development.

    As I said, most plots just sat there for a few years last time - but did not go down - might go down a bit this time as they had gone up quite ridiculously high. But it is an area with a lot of land owners who have had the land in the family for years: they tend to just be able to wait it out.
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
    (Herman Melville)
  • LillyJ wrote: »
    Ah you're posher than me! Mine's a punto - 1.2, and it has some sort of aversion to going round a roundabout - it always seems to want to go straight on.
    My OH has a 2003 Clio and I love driving that. He always drives though because he claims to be a professional driver and thus far superior.

    Posh - for an R reg Fiat (-: We only have 1 car, we don't need 2 in central London.

    I don't think it's a police thing, it's a male thing - OH always insists on driving, and he doesn't have the police excuse!
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,204 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    I can't believe how off-topic these threads go!

    Anyway, I usually drive my DW, as I'm such a bad passenger. :-)
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    Cars...could I just add that, as someone who has owned clapped out !!!!! type vans/lutons (we started out on market stalls yrs back), diddly 1.2 types and wizzy sports cars over the years....yes, they get you from A-B but there is a distinct difference in the quality of the drive......sometimes they break down and you don't get to B at all.
    BTW I hate our current car (totally, rubbish c8ap car) but don't drive much now so it's no big deal.
  • Rabiddog_2
    Rabiddog_2 Posts: 418 Forumite
    Regardless of quality of building, I think older houses generally had bigger rooms and higher ceilings than modern new-builds, all the ones I've seen have really been cramped and tiny to fit max dwellings per plot, altho that is inner city.
    My own thought is that present day houses will not last as long as their predecessors, I've seen a fair few sixtys blocks torn down and the 70's built ones will be next. Whilst 1890-1930's houses just keep rolling on

    Has, not as (or at least 'as)
    oooh icons? must try them out:confused::j:rotfl:naughty:
    tribuo veneratio ut alius quod they mos veneratio vos
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