New gas boiler regulations question

[Deleted User]

I'm looking to get a new boiler but have been told, sort of, by someone who knows someone etc....

... that early next year all NEW gas boilers have to be of the condensing type?

If this is correct, my questions are -

1. If I source and buy a new boiler now but hold off fitting it till after my building work is completed in Feb will I be in breach of the new regs?

2. What happens to all the existing NEW boilers sitting around in warehouses that are not of the condensing type and not sold before the new regs? Are there likely to be some bargains now if I can get it it fitted early enough?

3. Is a combi classed as a condensing type?

trafalgar_2

If this is correct, my questions are -

1. If I source and buy a new boiler now but hold off fitting it till after my building work is completed in Feb will I be in breach of the new regs?

2. What happens to all the existing NEW boilers sitting around in warehouses that are not of the condensing type and not sold before the new regs? Are there likely to be some bargains now if I can get it it fitted early enough?

3. Is a combi classed as a condensing type?

Yes it is correct ,after 1st april 2005 all boilers fitted to new and old dwellings have to be condensing boilers

In answer to your other questions
1 If you fit it before that date you won't be breaking the regulations (though the price differance doesn't seem that great so you may as well fit the condensing one which will be more fuel efficient

2 I would think there will be bargains although I would presume the manufacturers will be aware of the incoming regs and will of switched production to a great extent

3 No,but you can get 'condensing combi boilers' but it will say on it 'condensing'

Hope that helps

[Deleted User]

Thanks for the reply.

RedOnRed

Yes it is correct ,after 1st april 2005 all boilers fitted to new and old dwellings have to be condensing boilers

Not strictly true.

The minimum efficiency levels for boilers is being increased to SEDBUK levels A and B. Which basically means (in the current real world) that a condensing boiler will need to be fitted in order to achieve those levels.

If a standard boiler can be developed to meet the new levels, then those that do will be available. It doesn't mean that standard boilers will be banned from installations outright from next April.

boiler_man

Again not strictly true

Standard boilers will still be available, and be able to be installed under the exemptions part of the new regulations, although this will probable only apply to 15-20% of installations.

Current standard efficiency model boilers can only be designed to attain Sedbuk A or B by fitting a re-couperator internally within them which will make them still a condensing boiler. A boiler must condense at some point to be atleast Sedbuk B efficient.

for more info see my earlier post

http://forum.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Home;action=display;num=1098552247

RedOnRed

My point was that standard boilers will not be outlawed from next April and will still be available providing they meet the new requirements. Which you sort of seem to be echoing.

Who knows, by then they might be able to make them sooper dooper efficient.

trafalgar_2

I don't know ........these regulators don't make it simple for anybody do they ;D ;D

shrek101

A friend of mine said that these condensation boilers are cheaper to run but dont last as long as combo boilers around 5 years.

Our boiler Bosch Worcester combi boilers is about 12 years old and having problems with it. Its a pressured boiler not hot water tank, but every morning the pressue drops to 0 and have to top it up every day. Also piolot light seems to be goinmg out rather alot now.