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Mating a Male Dog pro's and cons?
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Hintza
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I have been asked if I will allow my Springer dog (registered) to be mated with a local !!!!!, he is 18 months old. It would be his first time and I am slightly concerned about the potential pros and cons for long term behaviour etc.
PS I also beat with him during the shooting season.
Any views?
Or are there better places to ask this question?
PS I also beat with him during the shooting season.
Any views?
Or are there better places to ask this question?
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Now where did I put that bag of popcorn ... :think: :rotfl:“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”0
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Is he a show winner? Is he a particularly good hunting dog? Is there any particular reason for using him for stud?
What is the history and pedigree of the b!tch and has here owner got homes already lined up for the puppies?
I'm biting my lip really really hard here because I don't think you should breed your dog, but I'm trying to be unbiased and give you good adviceDFW Nerd #025DFW no more! Officially debt free 2017 - now joining the MFW's!
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Certainly not from show stock. He comes from a good working dog background (bought for his working dog pedigree).
He comes from Norfolk and it is felt a bit of new blood will help up here.
Why do you feel I shouldn't breed from him?
I am more worried about how his behaviour might change.0 -
~Chameleon~ wrote: »Now where did I put that bag of popcorn ... :think: :rotfl:
Am I treading on dangerous ground asking this question on here? Guess I'll find out all I am looking for is constructive advice, will wait and see the response!0 -
If he is an exceptional worker and all his pups will go to working homes that is one thing.
If he is a mediocre working dog, dont bother, there are far too many around already.
If the pups may go to pet homes, don't bother. They are working dogs and will be unhappy if expected to be cooped up indoors all day, will probably be problematic, and may well be got rid of.
If you are not prepared for the fact that he may get a taste for the ladies and dissapear looking for females, don't bother.
There are risks with breeding a dog, (and there is an ethical responsibility about breeding dogs when we have so many unwanted ones already) so unless you have exceptionally good reasons for breeding him, good working homes lined up and are prepared for the changes that may occur in him then its probably not advisable.0 -
Am I treading on dangerous ground asking this question on here? Guess I'll find out all I am looking for is constructive advice, will wait and see the response!
It's not so much a dangerous question and the fact you're asking advice before just going ahead and doing it is a good thing, but it is rather an emotive subject especially in the current climate with so many healthy dogs being PTS or ending up in already overcrowded rescue kennels due to indiscriminate breeding.
Foreign correspondant has offered some very good advice and valid points for you to think about. And just to echo that, if you are absolutely certain both your dog and the prospective b*tch have something beneficial to offer the working stock, and you already have good working homes lined up for the pups, then it could be something to consider but please make sure you do lots of research first.“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”0 -
foreign_correspondent wrote: »
If you are not prepared for the fact that he may get a taste for the ladies and dissapear looking for females, don't bother.
This is the point that worries me most and some advice on the probability of this happening would be appreciated.
I do have some concerns about the b*tch, although I have not seen her I know her mother and sister and I am not convinced of her quality.
I'm not hugely concerned about good homes (in that around us we are pretty rural) but it is a fair point. I don't know the owners so might do a bit more research into them (I know the b*tches mother's owners and she hunts).
She only came into season two days ago so I have a bit of time before I have to make up my mind.0 -
Hi!
We just got a Labrador pup with a good Pedigree (FTCH) and our vet already asked us the question. We haven't made a decision yet so I'm watching the thread with interest.
An earlier post about knowing the breeder of the !!!!! and their plans for the pups would be the first consideration in my opinion!
Another thing to think about is CSA and paternity/fathers rights! LOL :rotfl:AF since 10.04.11
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Yes there is a very good chance your dog will realise what he's missing and start looking... personally I think all male dogs should be done if not breeding stock.
If you have any doubds about the b!tches quality then please don't get involved in breeding your dog with her. And the "I'm not worried about homes" line... sorry that isn't what responcible breeding is about. DO NOT breed unless there are homes lined up! PLEASE! I've worked with rescues and there are too many good dogs in rescue due to no fault of their own like homes breaking up etc - and even more where there are pups that were unwanted or wouldn't sell and so have been dumped.
Unless there is a REALLY good reason to continue your dogs line then don't breed him and have him done! If he isn't a great working dog and will be likely to produce a great working stock then you shouldn't be breeding him. The b!tch... well sadly we can't lecture her owners as they haven't come here to ask the same question...
However - IF you do mate the dogs... you need to decide on what to do if you can't find good homes for them all. Will you "split" the pups between you and each be responcible for half the litter and home them with yourselves until you manage to find them homes? If not then please please please don't do it...DFW Nerd #025DFW no more! Officially debt free 2017 - now joining the MFW's!
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from what you have said, I thik it would probably not be a good move for you - the positives do not appear to outweight the potential risks and changes in your dog.0
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