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Help Regarding NAT Settings

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I'm looking to see if anyone can help. I play on Xbox Live, and I can't connect to one of my friends if he hosts because his NAT settings are strict and I believe mine are moderate.

Now, for it to work, one of us needs to reduce NAT settings, either mine to open or my friends to moderate.

Is there a way of doing this? I have a Sagem router from Sky, and he has a BT Home Hub, if this helps.

Thanks in advance.
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  • mdbarber
    mdbarber Posts: 1,116 Forumite
    he needs to open the web management page on his router then go to advanced/application sharing and pick the xbox live (last entry( on his list of apps and assign it to his xbox.
    click here to achieve nothing!
  • II_D2_II
    II_D2_II Posts: 310 Forumite
    for this one, all he has to actually do it reset his modem,,
    i was on BT and i couldnt get into some friends games, it was like we clashed, and my nat was closed, on resetting the modem and reseting the wireless back to the xbox this made the NAT open again, and worked perfectly.
  • iviv
    iviv Posts: 572 Forumite
    http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

    Select the router from the list, then on the next page select Xbox Live, and it'll walk you through exactly how to do it, complete with pictures.
  • d900
    d900 Posts: 295 Forumite
    well you can only do what mdbarber says if you have a xbox live approved router.

    i wouldnt reset the router either

    just forward ports 3074 (UDP+TCP) & 88 (UDP) to the Internal IP of your xbox...(get ur mate todo it as well)


    well worth assigning a static ip for ur xbox as well
    The orginal post in this thread has a very very slim chance of being about money saving. The post is more than likely to ask a question that google could answer better than any of us.
  • II_D2_II
    II_D2_II Posts: 310 Forumite
    d900 wrote: »
    well you can only do what mdbarber says if you have a xbox live approved router.

    i wouldnt reset the router either

    just forward ports 3074 (UDP+TCP) & 88 (UDP) to the Internal IP of your xbox...(get ur mate todo it as well)


    well worth assigning a static ip for ur xbox as well
    but for a static Ip dont you have to speak with you ISP and see if they can offer you one? and wouldnt that cost you more?!
  • iviv
    iviv Posts: 572 Forumite
    II_D2_II wrote: »
    but for a static Ip dont you have to speak with you ISP and see if they can offer you one? and wouldnt that cost you more?!

    He means internal IP assigned by the router.

    The router gives each device on the network an internal IP, and every so often gives them all new ones (time can be changed in the router). You port forward to a certain IP in the network, so you could have it forwarded to the Xbox and it works fine, but the time expires, the router gives out new IPs to everything and you need to change the port that you had been forwarding to.
    Instead, you can set it so you manually give each device on the network an IP, so it doesn't change. This can cause some problems if you have a laptop, as you'll have to change the settings if you want to connect to a network somewhere else.

    The website I linked to a couple of posts back provides instructions on how to do all this.
  • chunter
    chunter Posts: 2,016 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    d900 wrote: »
    just forward ports 3074 (UDP+TCP) & 88 (UDP) to the Internal IP of your xbox...
    Cheers, sorted this for someone recently but i didn't write down the ports.

    If you have an Xbox, these are damnably useful...
  • PROLIANT
    PROLIANT Posts: 6,396 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Why do you need to create a NAT from the trust point on your firewall? All teardown TCP/UDP connections should be allowed by default, unless of course you are letting people on the Internet/WAN connect to your X-Box if you are hosting a game.
    Since when has the world of computer software design been about what people want? This is a simple question of evolution. The day is quickly coming when every knee will bow down to a silicon fist, and you will all beg your binary gods for mercy.
  • II_D2_II
    II_D2_II Posts: 310 Forumite
    iviv wrote: »
    He means internal IP assigned by the router.

    The router gives each device on the network an internal IP, and every so often gives them all new ones (time can be changed in the router). You port forward to a certain IP in the network, so you could have it forwarded to the Xbox and it works fine, but the time expires, the router gives out new IPs to everything and you need to change the port that you had been forwarding to.
    Instead, you can set it so you manually give each device on the network an IP, so it doesn't change. This can cause some problems if you have a laptop, as you'll have to change the settings if you want to connect to a network somewhere else.

    The website I linked to a couple of posts back provides instructions on how to do all this.

    ohh ok then thanks for that, i learnt something new :D
  • JPizzle
    JPizzle Posts: 143 Forumite
    All this TCP/UDP, 3074 (UDP+TCP) & 88 (UDP) stuff is just a little bit on the confusing side, but I'll try that link.

    Thanks everyone.
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