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jessicamb

Nelski wrote: »

so as a newbie i could get lots of new accounts.....................mmmm......might stick around here :wave:

ooh another soul claimed

Its well worth it though if you can be bothered.

chatta

Tim_L wrote: »

Off to Wales.

Oy I havent even started my newbie diary yet :rolleyes:

Tim_L

We have no powers in Wales, sadly. If it ever comes back to GIOL you're BUSTED

AddictedMoneysaver

Or if you're really bad... McFLY

lazza_w

chatta wrote: »

So in one sentence how does this matched betting, arbing stuff work

Many bookmakers offer free bets to encourage people onto their sites during particular sporting events or to attract new customers what people often do with free bets is to try to bet on a 'dead cert' (for example Chelsea to win the Premiership, Celtic to win the SPL), or to take a flyer at high odds you can get lucky this way, but bookmakers are canny, and even favourites don’t always win and because people who win when they do this tend to post onto Internet chat boards gleefully, and those that lose don't, it’s often possible to think it is easier to win big than it actually is in fact, you can lose both qualifying and free bet very easily however it is possible to use these free bets to make very easy free money, using a technique known as back/lay bet matching as a general rule, you can get 95-100% of the free bet amount as real cash for bets where the stake is returned, and about 75% where the stake is not returned this way, you win every time - it does take a little bit of getting your head around at first, but is well worthwhile as literally hundreds of pounds of real hard cash are available very easily it is really not all that difficult, and there are full instructions below bet/Lay matching transforms any bet into a simple two way choice and greatly simplifies the process, first the standard disclaimer - as always, do your own research, and if things go wrong it is your responsibility, not mine or this site's - so let's start with a word of explanation on how this all works, when you make a bet with a bookmaker, you place a stake on an event at particular odds for example if you were to put £10 on a bet on Team A winning a football match at 2/1 (decimal odds 3.0), if you were to win the bet you would receive a total of £30 back, i.e. your stake of £10 plus the bookie’s £20, however if you lost, the bookie would gain your £10 and you uld receive back nothing, now imagine you as the bookmaker - in this case you could also offer the same odds to someone for the same outcome (team A to win the match), gaining £10 if the punter loses, but risking £20 of your own money this is known as 'laying' a bet, so if you were both to bet on the event and act as a bookmaker at the same time, something interesting happens: whatever the outcome, the bet side and the lay side of the bet cancel out completely:Outcome 1 (bet won - Team A wins):You win £30, i.e. your stake of £10 plus £20 profit Bookmaker loses £20 if you are both the punter and the bookmaker, your total profit is:(£30-£10) - £20 = £0 outcome 2 (bet lost - Team A does not win (draws or loses))You lose £10, i.e. your stake Bookmaker gains £10, if you are both the punter and the bookmaker, your total profit is:£10 - £10 = £0 so you can see that in both cases, both the lay and the bet cancel each other out, you neither lose nor gain money, obviously this is useless for normal betting, but it is extraordinarily useful when going after bookmaker’s bonuses, as it allows you to place a completely risk free qualifying bet on any event you can both bet on and lay a bet on and then if you repeat the same thing with a free bet stake, you will always magically come out with a profit that is roughly equal to the free bet stake – you can prove this to yourself by working out the profit and loss on both sides of a free bet, taking the same odds as an example and assuming a £10 free bet Outcome 1 (Team A wins):you bet the free bet of £10 at 3.0, return is £30 with no outlay to you; On the lay side, your loss is £20, as before thus overall profit = £30 - £20 = £10 Outcome 2 (bet lost - Team A loses or draws) your loss on the bet side is zero (as the bet was free); You gain the punter's stake of £10 on the lay side so regardless of the outcome, you have made £10


... and breathe

jessicamb

I'm trying to remember my Welsh now.

All I can think of at the minute is Creoso and I dont feel Creoso right now if that means what I think it means.

Nelski

Tim_L wrote: »

Was rich last week. Haven't even cleared a grand this week yet though

pah - peanuts :rolleyes: :eek:

AddictedMoneysaver

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Bet that took you AGES to write!! Wish I could thank you more than once for that... :rotfl:

Nelski

lazza_w wrote: »

Many bookmakers offer free bets to encourage people onto their sites during particular sporting events or to attract new customers what people often do with free bets is to try to bet on a 'dead cert' (for example Chelsea to win the Premiership, Celtic to win the SPL), or to take a flyer at high odds you can get lucky this way, but bookmakers are canny, and even favourites don’t always win and because people who win when they do this tend to post onto Internet chat boards gleefully, and those that lose don't, it’s often possible to think it is easier to win big than it actually is in fact, you can lose both qualifying and free bet very easily however it is possible to use these free bets to make very easy free money, using a technique known as back/lay bet matching as a general rule, you can get 95-100% of the free bet amount as real cash for bets where the stake is returned, and about 75% where the stake is not returned this way, you win every time - it does take a little bit of getting your head around at first, but is well worthwhile as literally hundreds of pounds of real hard cash are available very easily it is really not all that difficult, and there are full instructions below bet/Lay matching transforms any bet into a simple two way choice and greatly simplifies the process, first the standard disclaimer - as always, do your own research, and if things go wrong it is your responsibility, not mine or this site's - so let's start with a word of explanation on how this all works, when you make a bet with a bookmaker, you place a stake on an event at particular odds for example if you were to put £10 on a bet on Team A winning a football match at 2/1 (decimal odds 3.0), if you were to win the bet you would receive a total of £30 back, i.e. your stake of £10 plus the bookie’s £20, however if you lost, the bookie would gain your £10 and you uld receive back nothing, now imagine you as the bookmaker - in this case you could also offer the same odds to someone for the same outcome (team A to win the match), gaining £10 if the punter loses, but risking £20 of your own money this is known as 'laying' a bet, so if you were both to bet on the event and act as a bookmaker at the same time, something interesting happens: whatever the outcome, the bet side and the lay side of the bet cancel out completely:Outcome 1 (bet won - Team A wins):You win £30, i.e. your stake of £10 plus £20 profit Bookmaker loses £20 if you are both the punter and the bookmaker, your total profit is:(£30-£10) - £20 = £0 outcome 2 (bet lost - Team A does not win (draws or loses))You lose £10, i.e. your stake Bookmaker gains £10, if you are both the punter and the bookmaker, your total profit is:£10 - £10 = £0 so you can see that in both cases, both the lay and the bet cancel each other out, you neither lose nor gain money, obviously this is useless for normal betting, but it is extraordinarily useful when going after bookmaker’s bonuses, as it allows you to place a completely risk free qualifying bet on any event you can both bet on and lay a bet on and then if you repeat the same thing with a free bet stake, you will always magically come out with a profit that is roughly equal to the free bet stake – you can prove this to yourself by working out the profit and loss on both sides of a free bet, taking the same odds as an example and assuming a £10 free bet Outcome 1 (Team A wins):you bet the free bet of £10 at 3.0, return is £30 with no outlay to you; On the lay side, your loss is £20, as before thus overall profit = £30 - £20 = £10 Outcome 2 (bet lost - Team A loses or draws) your loss on the bet side is zero (as the bet was free); You gain the punter's stake of £10 on the lay side so regardless of the outcome, you have made £10


... and breathe

funny as ....:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: printed it off for absorption later:T

Tim_L

jessicamb wrote: »

I'm trying to remember my Welsh now.

All I can think of at the minute is Creoso and I dont feel Creoso right now if that means what I think it means.

You're thinking of your favourite tipple Jess