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Network setup problem - change of router

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My Vigor 2600W eventually has given up the ghost, it seems to have no power to it, so have bit the bullet and bought a new Netgear DG834.

I have it up and working and connected to the internet, I have managed this via a wired connection direct from the modem to my laptop, and have wireless connections to that and the desktop which is in another room. OK so far.

The problem is I have the desktop working on wired, and the laptop wireless, the wiring configuration was.

Eternet cable from Router to wall socket wired from where telephone point is into next room where desktop is wall socket, eternet cable from socket to a 4 port switch, so that I can run a printer and the desktop wired.

It is not finding the ethernet connection. If I take the router to the desktop and connect it with a direct cable it finds it and I set it up, but no internet. Put it back with the phone line and simply the connection as router-cable to socket- next room-cable from socket to pc, still does not find the connection, will not light the line number up on the router? Why it is unchanged other than the router???

Help.
DG
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Why is it I have less time now I am retired then when I worked?

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  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    :confused: I know I am.

    Can you try to explain your set up again e.g.

    Modem................Router................Desktop etc.
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  • donny-gal
    donny-gal Posts: 4,661 Forumite
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    Sorry Expresso

    Connection as was Router - eternet cable to wall socket - cable up wall over ceiling down wall to wall socket in next room - **eternet cable to 4 port switch - eternet cables to printer and pc.

    Simplified it while having problems from **, with just eternet cable to pc

    Thanks
    DG
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  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    Nah, still Spanish to me! Perhaps someone else can understand your problem.
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  • Conor_3
    Conor_3 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    Are any of the patch cables you're using a crossover one? Either the one from the router to the wall socket or the one from the wall socket to the 4-port switch. I ask because I think the Vigor is able to compensate for that whereas the Netgear doesn't so you need to make sure you're using straight through patch leads. Also try with different patch leads as it could be the case that you have a faulty one which was OK until it got disturbed.
  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    Conor wrote: »
    Are any of the patch cables you're using a crossover one? Either the one from the router to the wall socket or the one from the wall socket to the 4-port switch. I ask because I think the Vigor is able to compensate for that whereas the Netgear doesn't so you need to make sure you're using straight through patch leads. Also try with different patch leads as it could be the case that you have a faulty one which was OK until it got disturbed.

    :confused:

    All Netgear routers that I have seen, have had auto sensing LAN Ethernet connections including the DG834.
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  • donny-gal
    donny-gal Posts: 4,661 Forumite
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    To the best of my knowledge the only cross over one I had I gave away as I had no use for it. I am using the one which I used from the router to the laptop to go from the router to the wall and and the one which finds the router if I put it direct to the pc from the wall to the pc, so don't think it is the cables - came to this combination after trying other cables.

    Any way of showing if they are crossover or not?
    Baffled
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  • mdbarber
    mdbarber Posts: 1,116 Forumite
    So if you connect laptop to modem, works ok?, but using wall socket it doesn't?
    Remove the switch, its maybe that that cannot handle the crossover as maybe the wall socket wiring is wired as a x-over.
    Check the wall socket is wired correctly, there is a standard color coding for these cables see
    http://www.dragon-it.co.uk/files/cat5_colour_codes.htm
    click here to achieve nothing!
  • donny-gal
    donny-gal Posts: 4,661 Forumite
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    All this has been working for a couple of years, so completely baffled, expected just a replacement but will take the socket fronts off and check my wiring.

    I have removed the switch to simplify the connection, still no recognition of a LAN connection.

    DG
    Member #8 of the SKI-ers Club
    Why is it I have less time now I am retired then when I worked?
  • donny-gal
    donny-gal Posts: 4,661 Forumite
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    Sods law at work here.

    Opened the first socket and no numbers just picture of colours. One side was white-blue stripe/blue,white-brown stripe/brown.

    Other side gave two colour options white-orange stripe/orange, then white-green stripe/green, or white-green stripe/green then white-orange stripe/orange. Had it with the former, so changed it to the latter. Result - zilch!

    Will now check the second one. nicely situated under the desk.
    DG
    Member #8 of the SKI-ers Club
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