please help before i throw my pc in the bin!

banger9365

fwor your doing a good job here and my first diognose of the problem could be wrong and it's looking more like a bad copy of windows and you should keep an open mind on the psu.
ps your talking it through with her better than i could,not very good at explaining stuff in english instead of it

Leopard

"be_alright",

I'm not an Apple "zealot". Nor do I "want" the OP to anything. (Least of all, buy a Prius.)

It was the OP, not I, who contemplated binning her PC.

Having read her postings one can see why. I've never contemplated binning a Mac.

If her problem is indeed one of software it's not the computer's fault. The hassle arises from the fact that hers has to run a Microsoft operating system, with all the woe that brings.

That woe is as amply demonstrated in this thread as it in several thousand others, here. How many postings in this forum are there - by comparison - from people having problems running an Apple computer system?

What's ludicrous, if only you could see it, is that you could argue what you do without grasping that all the complicated routines and hoops the OP has been made to jump through (so far to no avail) arise from the operating system she has chosen to use.

Just look at all the convoluted and time-consuming things she's been told to do so far. And none of it has either worked nor diagnosed the fault.

Like nearly all people who are obliged to use both systems I simply prefer Apple's. The hardware is properly built, the software is greatly more stable, it's user-friendly and the whole experience is far more problem-free.

Not everyone has experience of both systems: my posting was to assist those who have experience of only one and who cannot thus compare them. Particularly if the one they are using makes them want to bin their computer. They don't know what they're missing on the other platform. (And that applies both ways.)

I've no intention of getting drawn into a Microsoft versus Apple debate with you. If people actually want to use Windows, that's fine by me: it's their problem (and all that goes with it), not mine. Nor do I see any point in debating anything at all with someone who misrepresents other people's reasoning and misquotes them. (I trust that's "as technical as I need", to get that point across.)

This said, my comment stands. If you look at the front page of this forum objectively you cannot help but be struck by the fact that virtually every computer problem voiced is with a PC running a Microsoft operating system.

Anyone who only uses Apple kit shudders when they read these long threads of hassle that PC users have to deal with on a regular basis.

be_alright wrote: »

PFTI is a common acronym in our team to refer to how much a damage an end user could do to one of our programs unknowingly. Pink Fleshy Thing Impact

I did mean in the context of the thread. Almost like telling someone who's put Diesel in an Unleaded car that they should just go and buy a Prius instead, doesn't help the matter at hand.

That gives a pretty clear message about the degree of respect you have for your customers. (And their operating system.)

Privately, though, I do rejoice whenever I encounter PC zealots. I know, from personal experience of both systems, how much they are missing and how much they are handicapping themselves with their operating system of choice. It's always pleasant to see patronising bigots suffering the consequences of their own bigotry. :cool:

culpepper

Go into WHSmiths and buy a linux magazine with a live CD on it.
Put the CD in the CD drive and boot it. Run Linux!
OR You can also download Linux and write it to a CD or DVD .google puppy linux or ubuntu linux and download a live cD. at least the computer will work and wont cost £70 just to get running.
I recommend Ubuntu ,it is easy to learn to use but puppy linux is very simple too.

gaming_guy

culpepper wrote: »

Go into WHSmiths and buy a linux magazine with a live CD on it.
Put the CD in the CD drive and boot it. Run Linux!
OR You can also download Linux and write it to a CD or DVD .google puppy linux or ubuntu linux and download a live cD. at least the computer will work and wont cost £70 just to get running.
I recommend Ubuntu ,it is easy to learn to use but puppy linux is very simple too.

most of the linux distros on free pc mag disks that ive had were dumped on the disk in iso format, so the linux distros never booted

Leopard

culpepper wrote: »

Go into WHSmiths and buy a linux magazine with a live CD on it.
Put the CD in the CD drive and boot it. Run Linux!
OR You can also download Linux and write it to a CD or DVD .google puppy linux or ubuntu linux and download a live cD. at least the computer will work and wont cost £70 just to get running.
I recommend Ubuntu ,it is easy to learn to use but puppy linux is very simple too.

A nice thought. Alas, however, I don't think you'll get them to abandon their fenestrally-challenged system as easily as that. These masochists actually enjoy battling with all its countless problems.

It has to be said, however, that when a company spends a billion dollars and over half a decade to produce an "upgrade" that goes down like a pint of barium meal, with the majority of its users clamouring to downgrade back to what they had before and contemplating binning their computer in despair, perhaps the penny is finally beginning to drop that Microsoft has an operating system that is unnecessarily problematical and that there are considerably better alternatives.

Not among the zealots, of course, but among sensible people.

In the meantime, take consolation from the fact that while all the diehards continue to endure Windows, hackers will continue to concentrate their malice on that and leave others more discerning and free-thinking in peace. :cool:

Leopard

jaydeeuk1 wrote: »

Has Steve Jobs hacked in to Leopards MSE account!?

I'd rather he hacked into my bank account. :money:

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Leopard wrote: »

"be_alright",
If her problem is indeed one of software it's not the computer's fault. The hassle arises from the fact that hers has to run a Microsoft operating system, with all the woe that brings.

That woe is as amply demonstrated in this thread as it in several thousand others, here. How many postings in this forum are there - by comparison - from people having problems running an Apple computer system?

What woes? The downloaded version of XP could well be a likely candidate for the issues that is going on, all it takes is a few bytes of data to have not downloaded correctly to cause instability. I have been using XP since day of release and Vista for months before it went RTM with only errors being during that phase.

What's ludicrous, if only you could see it, is that you could argue what you do without grasping that all the complicated routines and hoops the OP has been made to jump through (so far to no avail) arise from the operating system she has chosen to use.

Once again, not the retail product could be the cause.

Like nearly all people who are obliged to use both systems I simply prefer Apple's. The hardware is properly built, the software is greatly more stable, it's user-friendly and the whole experience is far more problem-free.

Apple has the advantage of having a specific set of hardware, therefore only specific drivers need to be made. Not advanced ones for GPU's etc that you have on PC's.

I've no intention of getting drawn into a Microsoft versus Apple debate with you. If people actually want to use Windows, that's fine by me: it's their problem (and all that goes with it), not mine. Nor do I see any point in debating anything at all with someone who misrepresents other people's reasoning and misquotes them. (I trust that's "as technical as I need", to get that point across.)

It's what I see off every Mac zealot that they throw glib statements around without actually being able to back them up with technical knowledge. As a software engineer I'm more than ready to discuss the intracies of Windows that apparently give it such a dismal reputation in the other camps.

This said, my comment stands. If you look at the front page of this forum objectively you cannot help but be struck by the fact that virtually every computer problem voiced is with a PC running a Microsoft operating system.

As I said, an operating system is only as secure as the user. There's perhaps a 99% user ratio of Windows : OSX : Linux, therefore you would expect to see a higher class of incidents. Simple demographics.

Anyone who only uses Apple kit shudders when they read these long threads of hassle that PC users have to deal with on a regular basis.

I shudder when I see the preachings of a Mac user.

That gives a pretty clear message about the degree of respect you have for your customers. (And their operating system.)

Unlike Apple that are perfect?

Privately, though, I do rejoice whenever I encounter PC zealots. I know, from personal experience of both systems, how much they are missing and how much they are handicapping themselves with their operating system of choice. It's always pleasant to see patronising bigots suffering the consequences of their own bigotry. :cool:

It's this attitude that portrays Mac users in such a bad light. It's not bigottry at all. It's that Windows is bundled with everything from affordable PC's all the way to the highest end PC's, show me a Mac that you can get for £300.

If you use a Mac that's fine, if you use Linux that's fine but you've got to accept that if people use Windows then that's fine as well. You're not on a crusade to change everyone to a Mac, simply because they are not for everyone. Personally, there is not a Mac the right side of £3,000 that would be suitable for me.

BritBrat

Sorry I have not read all the thread.

You say you bought a restore disk off Ebay.

What is the restore disc for model, name and make?

What is the model, name and make of your PC?

Do they match?

If you try and use a restore disc for any computer that it was NOT intended for you will never get it to work.

If you manged to install windows I would say the Hard drive is OK.

P.S.

If you are going to bin it send it to me, I will pay for the postage.

culpepper

gaming_guy wrote: »

most of the linux distros on free pc mag disks that ive had were dumped on the disk in iso format, so the linux distros never booted

I have managed to boot from all the ones I have tried from Linux Magazine.
You can download ubuntu or have it sent to you for free from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
You would need the desktop edition.

gaming_guy

culpepper wrote: »

I have managed to boot from all the ones I have tried from Linux Magazine.
You can download ubuntu or have it sent to you for free from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
You would need the desktop edition.

what i originally meant is that the disks ive had were from the likes of personal computer world/computeractive etc and had the distros on the disk in an iso file so i couldnt use them unless i burnt them to another disk