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Private car park fine £148

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  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    slightly confused by this post, just come off nights and not woken up yet

    Go to the Discussion Time forum and start a thread suggesting that anything which might be considered remotely right wing is a good idea. Then stand back and wait.

    Alternatively look at threads started by 'bartsimpson' or 'nesima'.

    All good knockabout fun.:D

    For what it's worth my advice is also to ignore the 'fine'.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Just ignore all their letters and don't rise to the bait.

    If you write back you just encourage them to prolong the issue.
  • mpython
    mpython Posts: 3,677 Forumite
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    I'd suggest using something shorter like:-

    Dear Sir/Madam

    I am in receipt of your letter dated the 14.07.08, alleging that a vehicle registered to me overstayed an arbitrary duration in a vehicle park.

    As I am sure you will be aware, it is the driver of the vehicle with whom any contract to park was made, not the registered keeper.

    Should you wish to pursue this charge, please pursue the driver of the vehcicle and do not contact me again.

    Yours faithfully
    From MSE Martin - Some General Tips On Holiday Home Organisations and Sales Meetings

    DO NOT TOUCH ANY OF THEM WITH A BARGEPOLE!
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    I would probably choose to totally ignore them

    But if I did write back, I'd write back the following to begin with, but I'd probably not reply again, as the idea is to make them go away, not get into tittle tattle with them.

    Dear Sir/Madam

    Thank you for your letter dated the 14.07.08, alleging that a vehicle registered to me overstayed an arbitrary duration in a vehicle park.

    As I am sure you will be aware, it is the driver of the vehicle with whom any contract to park may have been made, not the registered keeper.

    However, I would like to note that this is the first letter I have recieved from you i.e. there was no such opportunity or request to pay £75 as is stated in your letter of 14/07/08.

    Please do not write back to me demanding money again, as I will consider this to be harrassment.

    faithfully
  • davejack711
    davejack711 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Thanks everyone for taking time to offer advice, having read all posts, we have decided not to send the above letter but to ignore it,

    We will keep you posted to any further developments and letters received.
    Must be due one now as now a week since first one.

    Thanks all again
  • davejack711
    davejack711 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Update on my Invoice,
    another letter was recieved today, stating that I had failed to respond to there first letter within 7days, now my file? has been passed to their dept collection office, who will visit my premises in the next few days,
    I was in work for 6am, so left at 5.30 this morming, and wife just told me there was some one knocking at front door at 6am, dogs going balistic, when she got down, no one was there.

    She is now getting worried, that they may come when either myself or both of us out and only children are there.
    Are these concerns justified, and how can I stop them calling again?
  • davejack711
    davejack711 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Dear Sir/Madam

    Outstanding : £148.45 owed to Premier Park Ltd
    Re: Penalty Charge Notice
    Ref XXXXXXX (wrong number again)

    You have failed to respond to our previous correspondence, and we hereby inform you that your case has now been passed to our Dept Collection Office.

    Our Officer will attend your premises in the next few days to seek full payment of the outstanding dept as shown above, unless you make full settlement or contact our office forthwith.

    TO STOP FURTHER ACTION YOU MUST EITHER PAY IN FULL OR CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY.

    Cheques should be made payable to Ross & Roberts Limited. You may send cheques, postal order, bankers draft or building society cheque to our PO Box 23 address above together with our ref number and your name and address.

    We can also accept credit and debit card payments over the telephone 24hrs a day.
    Please note that an addministration surcharge will be added onto this payment

    If you require a receipt of your payment, please enclose a stamped addressed envelope for this purpose.


    Well thats the letter in its entireity apart from the case number
  • davejack711
    davejack711 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Just done a search on the net, for premier park ltd.
    What you know its about 10 miles from me.
    on there site they advertise what they can do for clients, apart from clamping.

    Here is a copy of what they offer.

    Enforcement
    Vehicle Immobilsation | Parking Charge Notices | Self Ticketing Vehicle Immobilisation

    As part of the Private Security Industry Act 2001, and to also bring some much needed control into the sector, A Security Industry Authority (SIA) licence is required if you undertake the role of a Vehicle Immobiliser. To obtain this license you must undertake a 4-day NVQ registered course and undertake numerous checks including Criminal Records Bureau (CRB). The license is also renewable every 12 months with repeat checks in place.
    immobilisation1.jpg
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    Premier Park only use SIA licensed staff to carry out this role and we also operate under the British Parking Association (BPA) code of practise. This service can be used as a standalone option or in conjunction with the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) patrol or ‘Self-Ticketing' option. We also implement operating procedures relating specifically the location to ensure no one is Immobilised incorrectly.

    [<a href="http://www.premierpark.co.uk/enforcement.htm#top">back to top]



    Parking Charge Notices

    Parking Charge Notices (PCN) are a good alternative or additional enforcement measure to clamping. The parking area in question would still have suitable signage erected, giving a high visual impact, hopefully deterring unauthorised vehicles from parking.

    In the event of unauthorised parking a PCN would be attached to the vehicle, the PCN explains very clearly why the parking charge has been issued and how to pay.

    The Parking Charge Notice is normally fixed at £100.00 but if the charge is paid within seven days it is reduced to £50.00. In the event that a vehicle does not make payment within 14 days, the charge will then be passed to our Debt Recovery Agent and further charges applied. They will then obtain registered keeper details from the DVLA and commence further action.

    I never got any pcn or any chance to pay the less amount!!
    not that i would any way
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    Update on my Invoice,
    another letter was recieved today, stating that I had failed to respond to there first letter within 7days, now my file? has been passed to their dept collection office, who will visit my premises in the next few days,
    I was in work for 6am, so left at 5.30 this morming, and wife just told me there was some one knocking at front door at 6am, dogs going balistic, when she got down, no one was there.

    She is now getting worried, that they may come when either myself or both of us out and only children are there.
    Are these concerns justified, and how can I stop them calling again?
    Go and look on the pepipoo forums and you'll find that the advice is to ignore all of the letters.
    If someone does knock on the door then if you have to speak to them then tell them to contact the driver of the vehicle. Leave it at that.
    Happy chappy
  • Casey1709
    Casey1709 Posts: 225 Forumite
    If they come knocking tell them (politely) to go away, that they do not have permission to be on your land and that they are tresspassing. You do not have to answer any of their questions - they do not have any right to ask you for money or, if you tell them to pursue the driver, do not tell them who was driving it, that's their problem.

    They cannot take your property without a court order, and then, I believe, only court approved baliffs can.

    Maybe it'd be easier just to send either Wig's or mpython's short note.

    If they do decide to take you to court you can have a lot of fun with them as they never win a properly defended case (loads and loads of them on pepipoo). They're simply chancing their arm and trying to coerice you into paying them money they have no right to.
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