Residential Waste disposal at local dump - should I pay

evilgoose

Your builder should have quoted you a higher charge for the job and paid for the disposal of the rubble himself or you should take the rubbish to the dump in your own vehicle.

You could easily argue that several of your councils conditions for charging for the waste would apply to you.

If you do hire a van be aware that some councils will not accept vans or trailers over a certain size, if at all.

thebaldwindowfitter

i have a company van all sign written up i often go to the tip both on business and from my own houses but when im moving stuff from my own houses i make sure a speak to them first and havent had a problem sometimes they check in the back sometimes not

usignuolo

The builder, who lives around 10 miles away, got caught on the hop same as me and indeed as the staff in Customer Services. It was always the case, until April, that if you were a local resident (not a business) having some work done and you accompanied the builder to the dump with your rubble etc and proved your identity it would be accepted.

Since April it turns out they have tightened up the regime and tripled the price. Only they have not told anyone else on the council they have done this.

I did notice that there were a lot less builders around the dump than usual and a lot less rubbish. It would be good to think this meant there was more recycling but somehow I doubt it. My neighbour said he went there with his son recently and there was a notice outside saying they were not accepting any trade rubbish at all and trade vehicles would have to make their own arrangements with a private contractor.

None of the regulations seem to account for DIYers. And also there is some rubbish it is very hard for a private individual to recycle. I have put a notice on a website offering free to anyone who wants it for hard core but no takers.

It does seem we are having to pay twice for a lot of things these days through the rates.

amcluesent

Certainly I've used a rental van to take IIRC green waste to my council tip and not been challenged.

As an alternative, buy a Hippo bag and fill it (up to 1 tonne) then ring them to uplift - from memory about £50.

usignuolo

Well my elderly next door neighbour has an estate car so we have just loaded it up and made two trips to the dump with bags of rubble and old piping and the the old bathroom suite in various pieces and we went completely unchallenged. In fact while we were there a couple of old boys turned up with their old bathroom suite and dumped that. Someone else dumped a complete three piece suite and there was a complete bathroom suite on the dump in pieces already.

Meanwhile having made a formal complaint to the Council about their misleading website, and the guy's attitude at the dump, someone from the Council phoned my husband while I was out and said the rates for Commercial rubbish at £150 tonne are on the website aand only recyclable stuff is £55. Of course it does not say that on the website yesterday, the Customer Services Manager agreed with they had read the website and I was right. In any case the guy at the dump did not know if my stuff was recyclable as he did not give us a chance to open the van doors to show him.

It all seems a bit daft to me. if your builder has to be licensed to dump your waste from a building project and you don't the obvious thing to do is to borrow or hire an estate for a day and take it along in that. My builder even offered to pay for the hire of an estate for a day for us to do that because he felt bad about it.

misgrace

usignuolo wrote: »

I have just employed a local builder (sole trader) to replace my bathroom and there is some builders waste to dispose of. According to my council web site this is either free to local residents or possibly, as "commercial type" waste, it is chargeable at £55 tonne. (If you are a local resident and have proof of this it can be argued it is residential not business waste as I am not a business).

When we got to the dump in the builders van, the supervisor approached us and started shouting at us - presumably because we were in a van and had not yet gone on the weighbridge. I got out my identity proof and explained the situation and he continued to shout. He said it was trade waste in a van driven by a trader and it made no difference if it came from a private house, it was trade waste because I had employed the builder and brought it in his van. He said the council web site was wrong and then demanded £150 tonne to leave it.

What has anyone else found trying to dispose of waste created by a private building project? This must be a real incentive for fly tipping.

This is becoming a nightmare, as I have the same trouble, I am a P&D and all I have in my van is decorating stuff, steps etc.
When I take stuff from my garden/house to dump and because I have a van, I have to stop at the weighbridge,not to get weighed or anything, but to go into the office to show proof of identity, and a couple of utility bills.
It doesnt stop there....:mad: , they make me feel like I am a hooky builder dumping off stuff, as after I leave the weighbridge, I go a different way to the dumping area, I pull up, get out and open the back, well!!! within 60 seconds I have at least two employees just sauntering along the back of where I am parked, and they just happen to stop and have a nose to see what it is I am actually dumping.

I hate it, they make me feel like I am doing something wrong, and does make you wonder why so many people flytip.

fitshase

I took my old kitchen to the local dump earlier in the week. I had a hire van from work (we hired a van to move stuff between offices) so when I got to the dump I went on the weighbridge and stopped at the office.

The guy asked me to open the back to have a look. I explained that I was disposing of my old kitchen and he asked my address to check I was living in the borough. Once I gave my address, he said it was fine to proceed.

I think if you are in a hire van (e.g., logos of Enterprise Van Rental, etc, on it), you should be fine. They cannot see it as commercial waste as you are obviously hiring a van to dispose of DIY rubbish.

I think the main thing that gets people is when they go in a "works" van like misgrace. It's unfortunate that unscrupulous tradesmen would take advantage of the places if the rules were relaxed.