bedroom cupboard to shower room

leeegglestone

Im my bedroom i have a cupboard. which for a while i thought about having it converted to a Shower Room/Wetroom.
It is 240cm High, by 180cm by 90cm. From advise i had earlier its too small to have a cubicle , hence the idea of wetroom.
I want to try and gauge what materials would be required to get a rough price estimate for doing that. Before i get a friend to see if the plumbling side is possible.
Open to any kinds of idea, i havent much idea of whats involved or what to think about
Seems like a big job to me. thousands of pounds

halia

So you want a toilet and sink in there as well? its possibly a bit small for all of those things but if its just a shower you want you could fit a cubicle in easily. most cubicles are 80-90cm trays, and a door opening is 80-90cm.

I don't think even as a wet room you could get a loo, sink and shower in so personally I'd go for either the shower or a toilet and sink.

leeegglestone

no i dont think there would be room for sink & toilet.

just really a wetroom.

someone took a look once and said that because of it being a tight space, a cubicle would be difficult, with no much room to open a door, or if a sliding one, not much room for manouveur

Doozergirl

I've pulled it off before in a space a bit longer I think, but not that much longer - it was small but perfectly formed. Look at the Space range from Ideal Standard. We had the door in the middle of the long section opening out into the dressing room rather than into the bathroom... so you went left to the shower cubicle with bi-fold door that folds into the shower (that was just bog standard shower tray) A Space range handbasin right in front of the door and a Space corner toilet on the right hand side.

The catalogue used to have different permutations of what you can get in a small space.

There's a bathroom planner on the Ideal Standard website. I thin you can do it, with the layout I described with a microbasin, a corner toilet and a shower tray less than 90cm; H thinks that 760mm might be a standard size but 800, if they did them would be good.

DirectDebacle

Without seeing it it is difficult to tell but I have fitted shower cubicle, w.c and basin in similar sized spaces. Smallest tray you can get that is any use is 700x700 and these are tight. Measure up for an 800x800 or 900x 900 curved quadrant or rectangular one. Quadrant will have two curved sliding doors. You have a choice of either corner entry or side entry on the rectangle. These will be sliding doors. I assume the cupboard door opens out into the room. If it doesn't you will have to re-hang it so it does. Position the shower unit on the 1800 wall and in a corner. You will have around 900mm left on that wall to fit a w.c. You can get compact ones with a small footprint. You should have enough space to fit a wall hung basin. These can be obtained as small as 300mm width and 250mm deep. If the door is in the centre of the cupboard then it will have to be moved to one side or the other. I am assuning here it is on the 1800 wall. If it is on the 900 wall then no problem.

Main consideration is the soil pipe for the w.c. If that can be figured out then the shower and basin waste can be plumbed into it. If the cupboard is far away from your existing soil stack then you may well have to fit a saniflo unit to take all the waste. This will use small bore pipe down to 22mm if necessary so could be run under floorboards to an outside wall and into the soil stack. Other consideration is ventilation. You will have to have an extractor fan to take steam/smells out of the room.

If you don't have a combi-boiler but hot water comes from a hot water tank with a feed tank in the roof void then water pressure might be a problem for the shower. Consider a power shower with mains cold feed. Mira do a compact one which requires standard 2.5 T/E wire. These are easier to fit than separate pumped units or ones which require 6mm sq T/E and a separate feed to the fuse box.

What you want is not impossible. Requires thought, planning and research. For what you end up with it will be expensive. Shoe-horning or custom build always is compared to a refurb of what already exists. Decide whether it will represent value to you. There are many factors to consider other than cost alone.

Find someone who knows what they are talking about. A bathroom specialist is often better than a plumber. There is a lot more to it than pipework and a bathroom crosses several trades. You may need building control so enquire with your council first to see if what you are planning requires them to be informed.

It sounds a simple idea, 'Lets turn that cupboard into an en suite'. There is a lot of work involved in a project like this and that means disruption, dirt and dust. Floorboords lifted, holes drilled through walls, pipe and cable, tiling, carpentry before you get to the decorating. But don't give up. Just be aware of what it takes so there are no nasty surprises.

Good luck.

leeegglestone

here a plan i made of the room

http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupboardka3.jpg

Top Wall and Right Wall are the Externals

Doozergirl

Your OP said 180cm - your pic is 150cm.

If it's 150 then I can't see the point for the cost. You would literally just have a shower - I'm not convinced you see payback for that, either in practicality or the reflection in the price of your house.

Any way to extend the cupboard?

leeegglestone

did the pic a while ago,just went to double check, yep its 150cm must have been typo before sorry.

no cupboard cant be extended, the other side of it is the stairs.

DirectDebacle

leeegglestone wrote: »

did the pic a while ago,just went to double check, yep its 150cm must have been typo before sorry.

no cupboard cant be extended, the other side of it is the stairs.

That 300mm makes a big difference to what was already a tight space. I agree with Doozer. It is not a practical proposition to have a full en-suite in that space. If you must have something then the choices are really either a shower cubicle on its own or a w.c and basin. That is of course if the plumbing/extractor fan requirements are fairly straightforward.

leeegglestone

thanks for info. i was never interested in making it a full ensuite, just the idea of having it as a walkin shower wetroom, with it being so small cubicle wud be a tight squeeze.

DirectDebacle

leeegglestone wrote: »

thanks for info. i was never interested in making it a full ensuite, just the idea of having it as a walkin shower wetroom, with it being so small cubicle wud be a tight squeeze.

Wetrooms are very expensive and unless professionally installed can present very real and damaging problems if installed on suspended floors which are not ground floors.

You could easily fit a 1200x800 tray into your cupboard. A sliding door along the 1200 side of the enclosure and double outward opening or bi-fold doors fitted to the cupboard would mean very good access.

Alternatively you could just use it as a cupboard and chuck stuff in it.