should we get rid of our tenants in order tosell quick?

tbs624

Premier wrote: »

Any carefully worded tenancy agreement would specifically allow viewings at for the purposes of finding new tenants and/or selling the property.

:rolleyes: ... and if that was the case, what sanction would the LL be able to use when the tenant decided that they didn't want to comply? Most tenants, if pressurised into viewings that they don't welcome after being made to give up what is after all their *home*, may just decide to cook kippers and cabbage, lay around stark boll**k naked, tell the viewers about the appalling neighbours and what a rubbish area it is to live in, and how the central heating doesn't work properly and ooh did I mention the rats/mice/cluster flies that we just can't eradicate......


From the sound of it, the property looks grim enough with the tenants in as it is - even where tenants do keep the property in a reasonable condition, IMO a LL is best *asking* if viewings can take place and making sure that the tenants state the time/date that is suitable for them.

nugget08

jeez - you people are depressing....;)

Mrs_pbradley936

moneysavinmonkey wrote: »

you were incredibly lucky that your buyer was prepared to do this, and did not send you the bill for an extended hotel stay + furniture storage + inconvenience!!!

I know. As it was our solicitor issued the Notice and we kicked up a fuss about paying the agency fees. We ended up paying a reduced rate because they were supposed to give the Notice but someone forgot! Had we had a problem I would have been wanting the agents to pay because it was their fault. They also forgot that we had renegotiated their fee and the file was passed to a debt recovery department at their head office. Fun and games I tell you!

tbs624

nugget08 wrote: »

jeez - you people are depressing....;)

Yep, sorry I should have put some of those :j:jin to cheer you up.Oh and one of those :kisses3:.

It's more about being realistic but you never know, your tenants may just surprise you, and everything may drop into place for you. Good luck anyway :

Premier_2

tbs624 wrote: »

:rolleyes: ... and if that was the case, what sanction would the LL be able to use when the tenant decided that they didn't want to comply? Most tenants, if pressurised into viewings that they don't welcome after being made to give up what is after all their *home*, may just decide to cook kippers and cabbage, lay around stark boll**k naked, tell the viewers about the appalling neighbours and what a rubbish area it is to live in, and how the central heating doesn't work properly and ooh did I mention the rats/mice/cluster flies that we just can't eradicate......


From the sound of it, the property looks grim enough with the tenants in as it is - even where tenants do keep the property in a reasonable condition, IMO a LL is best *asking* if viewings can take place and making sure that the tenants state the time/date that is suitable for them.

Sanctions available is that the LL/EA just lets themself in with the prospective purchasers

If the tenants are stupid enough to be silly like you suggest, then it's best to just boot them out asap (legally of course ) and then redecorate/stage the property for a better achievable price.
Of course the tenants will find they'll need a LL reference to find anywhere else to rent, so maybe soon regret their stupidity as they rest their heads on the local park bench.

Premier_2

nugget08 wrote: »

jeez - you people are depressing....;)

Just the one's kicking their heels having recently left school

Hopefully they'll get a job soon or go to college where they might end up having to rent a property themselves (shudder). They'll come down with a bump if they try and start the games some of these keyboard warriers suggest.

moneysavinmonkey

Premier wrote: »

Any carefully worded tenancy agreement would specifically allow viewings at for the purposes of finding new tenants and/or selling the property.

which would potentially be deemed an unfair contract term and would in all likelihood be unenforceable.

Premier_2

moneysavinmonkey wrote: »

which would potentially be deemed an unfair contract term and would in all likelihood be unenforceable.

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Care to name the legal precedence case? Though not!

olly300

Premier wrote: »

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Care to name the legal precedence case? Though not!

There is no need to.

The tenants can change the locks without damaging the door and can refuse to give you or your agents the key because you or your agents are "harassing" them.

Alternatively is one of them is at home all day i.e. they work at home they can just bolt the door from the inside, and if the agent comes round and refuses to leave they can threaten to call the police.

Agents don't want the hassle particularly if they are there with a potential buyer, and so won't bother giving the rare number of people buying your flat details.

You as the landlord are welcome to take them to court to force them to give you the key or entry but it's a long process and will cost you a lot of money.

nugget08

so in that case, wouldnt the answer be to conduct all viewings during the day - give the estate agent a set of keys and get them to do all the viewings during the day while the tenants are at work. therefore the tenants are never bothered (obviously i would still keep them informed and check they werent takingt he day off or something) and they dont have a never ending succession of viewings bothering them?

but, at the end of the day, the main problem is that when that flat was empty last year (just when we left and before the tenants moved in) it was beautiful. i have no doubt it would sell if it was in that state again. i just dont see us a) getting a good price or b) selling it at all whilst they and their smelly socks are in there. i just think it would put people off.

we are having our first valuation tonight, so will wait to see what EA says.... i hate this - am very scared