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    • moneysaver12
    • By moneysaver12 29th Dec 07, 11:04 AM
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    Has anyone applied for a visa for the usa
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    • 29th Dec 07, 11:04 AM
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    Has anyone applied for a visa for the usa 29th Dec 07 at 11:04 AM
    We are thinking of going to disney next year, but i need a visa, ive had a look on the usa embassy site but its a bit confusing, i know that i need to fill a form in online and make an appointment and pay. Then it seems to say you need a b2 visa for holidays and that you need to show that you are going to have money while you are there, what proof do you need for this, also can you still go if you are going bankrupt. Has anyone has any experience of doing this please
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  • dzug
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    • 29th Dec 07, 1:16 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 1:16 PM
    Make sure you really do need a visa - the US London Embassy website vastly oversimplifies the situation.

    As to proof of funds - a bank statement or two should do it, providing there's evidence of money in it.

    If you haven't got the money you shouldn't really go regardless of whether they will give you a visa or not.
    • moneysaver12
    • By moneysaver12 29th Dec 07, 4:18 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 4:18 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 4:18 PM
    thanks, i would rather get a visa than risk it, do they expect you to have a lot of money in your account
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    • 29th Dec 07, 4:27 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 4:27 PM
    We are thinking of going to disney next year, but i need a visa, ive had a look on the usa embassy site but its a bit confusing, i know that i need to fill a form in online and make an appointment and pay. Then it seems to say you need a b2 visa for holidays and that you need to show that you are going to have money while you are there, what proof do you need for this, also can you still go if you are going bankrupt. Has anyone has any experience of doing this please
    Originally posted by moneysaver12
    Why do you think you need a visa?
    • iwanttoberich
    • By iwanttoberich 29th Dec 07, 7:38 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 7:38 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 7:38 PM
    If you are a UK citizen (or carry a British passport) you can travel to the USA without a visa if you have a machine readable passport. If you have one of the older passports, then you need to apply for a visa.

    I looked all this up a couple months ago. The info is confusing and not very clear, but it seems to take a long time and requires an interview. It is actually cheaper (and a whole lot easier) to renew your current passport. You do not need to wait for it to expire. It takes about 2 weeks. I think the visa takes a couple months.
    • DUKE
    • By DUKE 29th Dec 07, 8:18 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 8:18 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 8:18 PM
    I didn't think you needed a visa for the USA.
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    • 29th Dec 07, 8:22 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 8:22 PM
    I have been to Vegas and Indiana and only needed to fill out the Green form on the plane.
    Just ask your travel agent.
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    • 29th Dec 07, 10:00 PM
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    • 29th Dec 07, 10:00 PM
    If you are a UK citizen (or carry a British passport) you can travel to the USA without a visa if you have a machine readable passport. If you have one of the older passports, then you need to apply for a visa.

    I looked all this up a couple months ago. The info is confusing and not very clear, but it seems to take a long time and requires an interview. It is actually cheaper (and a whole lot easier) to renew your current passport. You do not need to wait for it to expire. It takes about 2 weeks. I think the visa takes a couple months.
    Originally posted by iwanttoberich
    ALL currently valid British passports are machine readable and ALL meet the US requirements - ie biometric data for the more recent ones.
    • iwanttoberich
    • By iwanttoberich 30th Dec 07, 10:22 AM
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    • 30th Dec 07, 10:22 AM
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    • 30th Dec 07, 10:22 AM
    ALL currently valid British passports are machine readable and ALL meet the US requirements - ie biometric data for the more recent ones.
    Originally posted by dzug

    It's all in the issue dates. I last renewed mine in 2001 and it is in the old format. Passports issued before the advent of biometric data would not meet US requirements. So OP would need first to check his/her passport (series of figures on the bottom of the back page with your picture).
  • dzug
    It's all in the issue dates. I last renewed mine in 2001 and it is in the old format. Passports issued before the advent of biometric data would not meet US requirements. So OP would need first to check his/her passport (series of figures on the bottom of the back page with your picture).
    Originally posted by iwanttoberich
    Yes they do. The US requirements apply to NEW passports issued after the date the biometric rules came in. They will continue to accept the old ones (ie machine readable only, no biometrics) until they expire.
    • iwanttoberich
    • By iwanttoberich 30th Dec 07, 11:07 AM
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    I owe you an apology Dzug . You are correct. Mine is not machine readable because it was issued outside of the UK. I am due to travel soon, so I have to get it renewed in January. Didn't like the hideous picture on it anyway .

    This forum is great for clarifying issues.
  • dzug
    I owe you an apology Dzug . You are correct. Mine is not machine readable because it was issued outside of the UK. I am due to travel soon, so I have to get it renewed in January. Didn't like the hideous picture on it anyway .

    This forum is great for clarifying issues.
    Originally posted by iwanttoberich
    No worries iwantoberich.

    It surprises me that your passport is not machine readable though - I thought the last of those, even from overseas Embassies, had fallen out of the system some time back. Obviously I was wrong.
  • dmg24
    We still don't know why the OP needs a visa.

    If it is due to serious criminal convictions, then going bankrupt/ large debt could have an impact on your application (they want to see proof that you have a reason to return to the UK). Not sure how the debt would apply to other reasons.
    • moneysaver12
    • By moneysaver12 30th Dec 07, 2:37 PM
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    In 2001 i got arrested three months after the suppose incident for raceisally acravted threating behaviour, got two years probation which finished a month early in 2005 as it took 18 months for it to be sorted. My probation officer believe that i wasn't racist and iam not racist, nor did i do it, he attacked me but because i was white it was me that got in to trouble. I do need a visa for this reason, but not sure if i will get one, i do have reasons to come back to this country iam a student and will be for the next five to six years
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  • dmg24
    Yes, I would say that you need a visa, and being a student plus having (I assume) a lot of debt will not help your application. I know of someone who got turned down for a visa having a few convictions for assault, but I don't know if they were more or less severe than your own conviction.

    Without being intrusive, if you are going bankrupt will this not contradict you having money to spend whilst you are there?

    It is possible that you will get through without a visa (plenty of people do), but that would of course be up to you if you wanted to take the chance.

    You need to take specialist advice on this x
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    • By moneysaver12 30th Dec 07, 3:24 PM
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    We were hoping to use clubcard deals to pay for it, i would rather not risk it, where can i get specalist advice from please
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    • Kezza25
    • By Kezza25 30th Dec 07, 3:31 PM
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    I have a visa for the US.

    I got it after I saw all the potential issues with travelling after being arrested within the UK - at the time the feeling was an arrest was sufficient to warrant a visa (it did not matter if you were convicted or not).

    Mine lasts 10 years and apart from being time consuming to attain was no problem at all. I sometimes take a little longer to get through immigration because of the attitude I get from immigration but otherwise no problem at all.

    I got it because there was no way I was going to the US and get sent home and lose out on the money/vouchers I had spent.

    What I would say is that I wasn't convicted of a criminal offence and I did not spend any time in prison, I can only offer my experiences I am afraid.
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  • dzug
    We were hoping to use clubcard deals to pay for it, i would rather not risk it, where can i get specalist advice from please
    Originally posted by moneysaver12
    A US immigration lawyer is your only reliable specialist independent source of advice. He will be able to tell you whether, under US law, a racially motivated attack involves moral turpitude or not. (You having a different version of events counts for zilch, unfortunately. It could actually worsen things (lack of contrition, etc). You were convicted. full stop)

    If it does you have the choice of lying on the visa waiver form and probably getting away with it, or applying for a visa which would probably be refused, given that the conviction was fairly recent. If there's any doubt about this the impending bankruptcy would clinch it.

    If it doesn't (involve moral turpitude) then you can safely tick no on the visa waiver form.

    I doubt if you will get any sense out of the US Embassy - they will tell you to apply for a visa. They won't tell you the likelihood of getting one until they have your form and (non-refundable) money.
    • moneysaver12
    • By moneysaver12 30th Dec 07, 10:28 PM
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    A US immigration lawyer is your only reliable specialist independent source of advice. He will be able to tell you whether, under US law, a racially motivated attack involves moral turpitude or not. (You having a different version of events counts for zilch, unfortunately. It could actually worsen things (lack of contrition, etc). You were convicted. full stop)

    If it does you have the choice of lying on the visa waiver form and probably getting away with it, or applying for a visa which would probably be refused, given that the conviction was fairly recent. If there's any doubt about this the impending bankruptcy would clinch it.

    If it doesn't (involve moral turpitude) then you can safely tick no on the visa waiver form.

    I doubt if you will get any sense out of the US Embassy - they will tell you to apply for a visa. They won't tell you the likelihood of getting one until they have your form and (non-refundable) money.
    Originally posted by dzug
    How much would a lawyer cost
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  • dzug
    How much would a lawyer cost
    Originally posted by moneysaver12
    Sorry not a clue. Not cheap though.
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