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Elite Management Midlands Ltd
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@Longman Bevan - start your own thread as it is confusing to have multiple issues.
@PaulTurner Elite are now in the IPC having jumped on 14th. All their August tickets are being routed through DCBL who are offering only IPC and not BPA rules so be careful. Unlikely you'll get a POPLA code as they won't offer it.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
IamEmanresu wrote: »@Longman Bevan - start your own thread as it is confusing to have multiple issues.
@PaulTurner Elite are now in the IPC having jumped on 14th. All their August tickets are being routed through DCBL who are offering only IPC and not BPA rules so be careful. Unlikely you'll get a POPLA code as they won't offer it.
So what do I do now then?
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respond to EMM as the day to day keeper, as you would if it was your own car. Send your appeal, using the standard blue text template
As before, only I would bring forward the appeal to day 20 if by email/online, and even earlier if the PCN only 'offers' appeal by post. You don't want to be accused of appealing 'late' and a lot of PPC firms only allow 21 day (I know the PCN says 28 but protect your position by appealing well within day 20).PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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If you have inadvertently used your real name as your forum name you need to get MSE to change it to something anonymous
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Given the Bank Holiday I'm going to send my appeal via email today, it'll be 15 days since the date of issue. Hope that's OK?
Just very confused now with the comment added about the IPC / BPA thing!0 -
Just very confused now with the comment added about the IPC / BPA thing!
If they were BPA members on 9th, they have to hold to BPA rules which is a POPLA code on rejection. If no POPLA code is forthcoming, all you can do is to complain to the BPA who cannot do anything as Elite are no longer members and therefore cannot be sanctioned.
If this does happen, then you go to the DVLA as Elite cannot escape a DVLA sanction.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
I am submitting the following today:
Dear Sirs
Re: PCN No. ....................
I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car.
I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers.
There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.
Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.
I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully,
Name and Address as the day to day keeper.
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So, I've had a response to the above.
It's an email back saying the following woth lots of pictures of the signage, that were taken on several dates, but not the date that the "offence" took place on. The letter I've had states:
13th September 2017
Dear Sir/Madam
Parking Charge Notice:00000
Location: XXXXXXXXXX
Date of Issue: 09/08/17
Further to your correspondence received on 25/08/17 we cannot investigate your appeal any further.
I note, you do not wish to disclose the driver on the day in question therefore, your parking charge notice
will be passed to our appointed service agent whom will then obtain keeper details. You may be requested
to disclose driver details under the Protection of Freedoms Act. – Copy enclosed.
In terms of the points raised within your appeal, I enclose photographic evidence showing signage on site
which is not insufficient and warns all motorists of the contract you agree to adhere too once leaving your
vehicle parked on site.
No further correspondence shall be made unless you wish to appeal the above parking charge notice with
mitigation as opposed to an internet template.
Should the parking charge notice remain unpaid then it shall be passed to our appointed parking service
agent where charges may be added.
Yours faithfully
Appeals Dept
Elite Management (Midlands) Ltd
What are the next steps now as there is no POPLA?
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Dear Elite,
The BPA tell me you were required to act under their Code of Practice at the time of the parking event. Where's my POPLA code and why are you denying the right of a registered keeper to appeal, and suggesting that appeals cannot be considered without the driver's name, and telling me that appeals have to be based upon mitigation?
This is all lies so I have copied in Mr Dunford (DVLA) and Mr Clark (BPA) to add weight to my right for a POPLA code to be provided in your rejection letter. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to your gutter-dwelling industry.
Try again - POPLA code please.
yours,
david.dunford@dvla.gsi.gov.uk
steve.c@britishparking.co.ukPRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Oooh... that's quite strong!!
Can they go down the Freedom Act thing? I did actually give them my name & address as the day to day keeper!
So do I actually copy those people in on the email too?
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