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    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
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    Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an unauthorised pet?
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    • 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
    Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an unauthorised pet? 10th Jul 17 at 11:42 AM
    I am renting a flat to a couple on a 12 month tenancy agreement. When they applied they did not say anything about having a pet and in the tenancy agreement it states that tenants must get permission for any pets from the landlord first. I have been informed by a neighbour that one of the tenants has been seen going in and out of the flat with a dog, and the dog has also been seen in the garden. I asked the tenants about it and they claimed that it didn't belong to them but was a friend's who had been visiting or had left the dog there for a short time. I told them that I did not want a dog in the flat at all even if it was a friend's and that they should stop allowing the friend to bring the dog in, but it has been seen again since by my neighbour who watches and keeps me informed, when the woman tenant is around she often seems to have the dog with her.
    I think that the dog is probably really theirs or has been staying with them and I don't want it there. How can I go about ending their tenancy for breach of contract? Will I have to obtain proof that the dog is there? Does it matter legally whether it belongs to them or not?
    They also pre-paid all 12 months of their rent before moving in and have eight months remaining on the tenancy, will this make it harder for me to get them out?
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    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 10th Jul 17, 11:45 AM
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    I wouldn't have though so, but you can claim back for any damage caused by the dog after they leave.

    Give them a chance though, its really hard to find places to rent if you have pets and if they are otherwise good tenants and the dog is well trained and well behaved, maybe its not the end of the world?
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 10th Jul 17, 11:48 AM
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    I am renting a flat to a couple on a 12 month tenancy agreement. When they applied they did not say anything about having a pet and in the tenancy agreement it states that tenants must get permission for any pets from the landlord first. - You really need to quote the EXACT phrase. I have been informed by a neighbour that one of the tenants has been seen going in and out of the flat with a dog, and the dog has also been seen in the garden. I asked the tenants about it and they claimed that it didn't belong to them but was a friend's who had been visiting or had left the dog there for a short time. I told them that I did not want a dog in the flat at all even if it was a friend's and that they should stop allowing the friend to bring the dog in, but it has been seen again since by my neighbour who watches and keeps me informed, when the woman tenant is around she often seems to have the dog with her. - Stop spying on your tenants
    I think that the dog is probably really theirs or has been staying with them and I don't want it there. How can I go about ending their tenancy for breach of contract? - how long left on the 12 month tenancy? you cant really, you'd have to convince a court and frankly they aren't going to evict over this. Will I have to obtain proof that the dog is there? Does it matter legally whether it belongs to them or not? - no
    They also pre-paid all 12 months of their rent before moving in and have eight months remaining on the tenancy, will this make it harder for me to get them out?
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop


    Yes, you wont get them out before the 8 months are up. Don't waste money on it.


    Also sell up once you do legally evict them, in about 12-14 months, via the courts.
    • ViolaLass
    • By ViolaLass 10th Jul 17, 12:00 PM
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    Are they otherwise good tenants? Pay their rent on time?

    Why would you want to throw that away on the sayso of a neighbour?
    • fairy lights
    • By fairy lights 10th Jul 17, 12:04 PM
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    my neighbour who watches and keeps me informed
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    That's creepy.
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 10th Jul 17, 12:05 PM
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    Are they otherwise good tenants? Pay their rent on time?

    Why would you want to throw that away on the sayso of a neighbour?
    Originally posted by ViolaLass
    Because the OP doesn't understand that being a LL is a business I think
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 10th Jul 17, 12:15 PM
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    Arrange for an inspection and if the dog is affecting the property then have a word. If everything seems clean then I would leave them. Is it wooden floors?
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 10th Jul 17, 12:21 PM
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    That's creepy.
    Originally posted by fairy lights
    Actually it sounds delightfully quaint. I would have installed concealed cameras in the flat.
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 12:28 PM
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    Yes, you wont get them out before the 8 months are up. Don't waste money on it.


    Also sell up once you do legally evict them, in about 12-14 months, via the courts.
    Originally posted by Guest101
    I'm sorry, I don't understand - why would I need to evict them after their tenancy agreement is up, can't I just not renew the tenancy? And I don't want to sell the flat....
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 10th Jul 17, 12:29 PM
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    I'm sorry, I don't understand - why would I need to evict them after their tenancy agreement is up, can't I just not renew the tenancy? And I don't want to sell the flat....
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Oh dear...
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 12:31 PM
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    Arrange for an inspection and if the dog is affecting the property then have a word. If everything seems clean then I would leave them. Is it wooden floors?
    Originally posted by glasgowdan
    No it's mostly carpet. I am allergic to dogs so I always said I would never have dogs in my flat in case I need to live there again.
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 12:34 PM
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    Are they otherwise good tenants? Pay their rent on time?

    Why would you want to throw that away on the sayso of a neighbour?
    Originally posted by ViolaLass
    They paid all of their rent in advance but I just really don't like dogs in my property, I may have to live there again in the future and I am allergic to dog fur.
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 12:36 PM
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    Oh dear...
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    Please tell me what I am missing
    • cloo
    • By cloo 10th Jul 17, 12:36 PM
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    I wouldn't bother if they are otherwise good tenants and trying to get them our early is more trouble than it's worth. I had good tenants who got a cat without asking me, but I didn't mind seeing as they were good tenants and it was only a cat. I would have been less happy had it been a dog, but I wouldn't have lost them over it.

    If it makes you that unhappy you could give them notice at the end of their tenancy, which means no more than two months before the end of the 12-month period, and if there is any real damage from the dog (for example, some friends had a tenant with a dog that scratched the back door to pieces) it can justifiably come out of the deposit.
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 10th Jul 17, 12:38 PM
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    Please tell me what I am missing
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Only a tenant or a court can be a tteenancy. If they choose I stay out need to eevict.
    • fairy lights
    • By fairy lights 10th Jul 17, 12:39 PM
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    Please tell me what I am missing
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Quite a lot, I'd say.
    Please tell me you have protected their deposit, at least?
    • Pixie5740
    • By Pixie5740 10th Jul 17, 12:40 PM
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    Please tell me what I am missing
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    You don't seem to have a clue how a tenancy can be ended.

    Read G_M's guide to Ending/renewing an AST.

    You also need to understand that it is no longer your flat, it's your tenants'.
    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery.
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 12:51 PM
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    Oh dear...
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    You don't seem to have a clue how a tenancy can be ended.

    Read G_M's guide to
    You also need to understand that it is no longer your flat, it's your tenants'.
    Originally posted by Pixie5740

    What I am saying is that I don't understand Guest101's statement:
    "Also sell up once you do legally evict them, in about 12-14 months, via the courts"

    The poster says that I shouldn't bother trying to get them out (they have 8 months left on contract), then says I should evict them through the courts and sell up! I'm saying, why would I need to get the courts involved after the 8 months, since I can just give them notice to leave when their contract is up? Maybe it's a joke and I don't get it.
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 12:57 PM
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    Only a tenant or a court can be a tteenancy. If they choose I stay out need to eevict.
    Originally posted by Guest101
    You have been drinking.
    • Soundgirlrocks
    • By Soundgirlrocks 10th Jul 17, 12:58 PM
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    Grabs some popcorn......
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