Your browser isn't supported
It looks like you're using an old web browser. To get the most out of the site and to ensure guides display correctly, we suggest upgrading your browser now. Download the latest:

Welcome to the MSE Forums

We're home to a fantastic community of MoneySavers but anyone can post. Please exercise caution & report spam, illegal, offensive or libellous posts/messages: click "report" or email forumteam@. Skimlinks & other affiliated links are turned on

Search
  • FIRST POST
    • TeaRex
    • By TeaRex 10th Jun 17, 4:06 PM
    • 29Posts
    • 34Thanks
    TeaRex
    Caught Speeding - New Rules? Any Advice/Experience?
    • #1
    • 10th Jun 17, 4:06 PM
    Caught Speeding - New Rules? Any Advice/Experience? 10th Jun 17 at 4:06 PM
    Hey everybody, hoping someone has some experience of the new rules around speeding that can help?!

    I was caught speeding on the 16th May, 45 in a 30. It was in my local area with a handheld gun. Its no excuse and its my own fault, totally hold my hands up as I got caught twice in a short space last year and have been so careful since then but I think they got me just where it goes from a 40 down to a 30. Not looking for a lecture anyway, just some sensible replies from people who have been through the new rules recently.

    I received the Notice of Intended Prosecution(?) on the 7th June, dated 5th June. My car is a company car through my work so they had sent it to the lease company first who named me, thats why I have only just found out.

    Now heres the question - Has anyone had any experience of the new rules? What am I likely to be offered?

    I have 6 points already (3 from Feb 16 and 3 from April 16)
    From what I have seen online I am looking at a fine of 75-125% of my weekly wage and 4-6 points OR a 7-21 day ban but every article seems to say different things, can't find anything from people who have ACTUALLY been caught since the new rules.

    I also got caught on April 22nd 2014 (first offence) but took the course in June 2014 so I don't think Im applicable for that. Plus I think I would only be offered the course if it was 42mph or less.

    Any advice to ease my mind? I keep thinking worst case where I end up getting banned and losing my job etc. The thought of that makes me feel terrified and sick. Thanks in advance.
Page 1
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 10th Jun 17, 5:18 PM
    • 1,048 Posts
    • 715 Thanks
    Tarambor
    • #2
    • 10th Jun 17, 5:18 PM
    • #2
    • 10th Jun 17, 5:18 PM
    You won't be offered the course even if it was your first offence because you were 50% over the speed limit.

    6 points doesn't look favourable on you especially given you've got them quite recently. If there were no other contributing factors, i.e poor driving, then you're likely to be looking at a financial stiffing plus the points but you are going to be getting a fine and points. If they do award 6 points because they deem it serious enough then you'll be banned under totting up given you've already got 6 points and 12 points is a ban. In that respect a 7-21 day ban would be more preferable as it would be shorter than one under totting up as that would be 6 months.

    If your company insure your car don't forget you also need to inform your employers of any conviction that you get because it may be the case that their insurers won't cover employees with more than 6 points. If you insure it you'll need to inform your insurers even though the insurance isn't yet up for renewal. Expect next years to be expensive if you pay for it.
    Last edited by Tarambor; 10-06-2017 at 5:24 PM.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 10th Jun 17, 5:47 PM
    • 925 Posts
    • 1,040 Thanks
    Aylesbury Duck
    • #3
    • 10th Jun 17, 5:47 PM
    • #3
    • 10th Jun 17, 5:47 PM
    Any advice to ease my mind? I keep thinking worst case where I end up getting banned and losing my job etc. The thought of that makes me feel terrified and sick. Thanks in advance.
    Originally posted by TeaRex
    You really should capture that feeling of being terrified and sick and remember it when you're driving. Being caught speeding four times(?) in three years suggests a serious problem with the way you drive. If your job is dependent on your licence and you manage to escape a ban or insurance consequences that take you off the road this time, it would seem only a matter of time until you're caught again anyway. It's costing you a fortune, causing you a lot of worry and is putting your job at risk, and that's before you even consider the possible risks to your and others' safety. How many more warnings do you need? Seriously, consider some more tuition or some other method of changing the way you're driving. It's not worth the worry to save a few seconds or minutes on each journey.
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 10th Jun 17, 6:18 PM
    • 11,466 Posts
    • 6,418 Thanks
    Strider590
    • #4
    • 10th Jun 17, 6:18 PM
    • #4
    • 10th Jun 17, 6:18 PM
    You really should capture that feeling of being terrified and sick and remember it when you're driving. Being caught speeding four times(?) in three years suggests a serious problem with the way you drive.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck

    Not so much a serious problem, more one of not paying attention to speed limits and possibly a large dose of the "average speed driver", who does 40-45mph everywhere.
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • TadleyBaggie
    • By TadleyBaggie 10th Jun 17, 6:24 PM
    • 2,347 Posts
    • 1,695 Thanks
    TadleyBaggie
    • #5
    • 10th Jun 17, 6:24 PM
    • #5
    • 10th Jun 17, 6:24 PM
    Since this is well within fixed penalty guidelines, 3 points and £100 will be the result.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Jun 17, 7:15 PM
    • 14,796 Posts
    • 13,148 Thanks
    AdrianC
    • #6
    • 10th Jun 17, 7:15 PM
    • #6
    • 10th Jun 17, 7:15 PM
    I was caught speeding on the 16th May, 45 in a 30.

    Now heres the question - Has anyone had any experience of the new rules? What am I likely to be offered?

    I have 6 points already (3 from Feb 16 and 3 from April 16)

    I also got caught on April 22nd 2014 (first offence) but took the course in June 2014
    Originally posted by TeaRex
    There are no "new rules". The press totally blew a very minor change (the guideline %age of weekly income for fines for serious offences that went to court) out of all proportion.



    Whether you went on an SAC or not is irrelevant, since you were a little above the threshold for a course. 3pt, £100 FPN.

    You now have another two years of driving like a nun, because your resistance to clue means you are now one more ticket away from a ban. TAKE THE HINT.
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 10th Jun 17, 7:36 PM
    • 4,322 Posts
    • 3,653 Thanks
    BeenThroughItAll
    • #7
    • 10th Jun 17, 7:36 PM
    • #7
    • 10th Jun 17, 7:36 PM
    Hey everybody, hoping someone has some experience of the new rules around speeding that can help?!

    I was caught speeding on the 16th May, 45 in a 30. It was in my local area with a handheld gun. Its no excuse and its my own fault, totally hold my hands up as I got caught twice in a short space last year and have been so careful since then but I think they got me just where it goes from a 40 down to a 30. Not looking for a lecture anyway, just some sensible replies from people who have been through the new rules recently.

    I received the Notice of Intended Prosecution(?) on the 7th June, dated 5th June. My car is a company car through my work so they had sent it to the lease company first who named me, thats why I have only just found out.

    Now heres the question - Has anyone had any experience of the new rules? What am I likely to be offered?

    I have 6 points already (3 from Feb 16 and 3 from April 16)
    From what I have seen online I am looking at a fine of 75-125% of my weekly wage and 4-6 points OR a 7-21 day ban but every article seems to say different things, can't find anything from people who have ACTUALLY been caught since the new rules.

    I also got caught on April 22nd 2014 (first offence) but took the course in June 2014 so I don't think Im applicable for that. Plus I think I would only be offered the course if it was 42mph or less.

    Any advice to ease my mind? I keep thinking worst case where I end up getting banned and losing my job etc. The thought of that makes me feel terrified and sick. Thanks in advance.
    Originally posted by TeaRex
    Advice to ease your mind?

    Start paying some attention to that pretty dial or display just above the steering wheel with all the numbers on it.

    Hint: when the number on the dial is MORE than the number on those little red and white circular signs by the side of the road, stop pressing the !!!!ing right hand pedal and start pressing the middle one.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Jun 17, 7:38 PM
    • 14,796 Posts
    • 13,148 Thanks
    AdrianC
    • #8
    • 10th Jun 17, 7:38 PM
    • #8
    • 10th Jun 17, 7:38 PM
    Hint: when the number on the dial is MORE than the number on those little red and white circular signs by the side of the road, stop pressing the !!!!ing right hand pedal and start pressing the middle one.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    I would point out that not all speed limits have pretty read and white signs - but the OP knows this, because he was reminded about default limits (and how to determine them) within the last three years on his half day of tea and biccies.
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 10th Jun 17, 8:25 PM
    • 4,322 Posts
    • 3,653 Thanks
    BeenThroughItAll
    • #9
    • 10th Jun 17, 8:25 PM
    • #9
    • 10th Jun 17, 8:25 PM
    I would point out that not all speed limits have pretty read and white signs - but the OP knows this, because he was reminded about default limits (and how to determine them) within the last three years on his half day of tea and biccies.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Fair comment. But let's face it, if they're missing the obvious signs, they're hardly going to notice how far apart the streetlights are
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 10th Jun 17, 11:37 PM
    • 718 Posts
    • 342 Thanks
    docmatt

    Start paying some attention to that pretty dial or display just above the steering wheel with all the numbers on it.

    Hint: when the number on the dial is MORE than the number on those little red and white circular signs by the side of the road, stop pressing the right hand pedal and start pressing the middle one.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    Ha, says the guy who drives a super bike


    The Viffer is fantastic for whizzing about on smaller B roads and very windy stuff, because it's so light and flicky, but it's rubbish on faster sweeping roads as it runs out of puff too quickly and you're constantly stirring the box.

    The GS is great for almost everything. If I could only keep one bike it'd be the GS. Fast enough to get you into trouble, very manoeuvrable, comfortable all day and will go anywhere.

    My favourite is the SThou though. It's just epic in every way. It's no more uncomfortable than the GS for me, it's biblically fast and stupidly loud, plush on dodgy surfaces with the electronic suspension, handles superbly, easy to ride quickly with the traction control, anti wheelie, anti stopping ABS, etc, and I've still got heated grips and cruise control. The only problem it has really is that it is far, far too fast for the road - it'd be too easy to go to prison on it. You could happily lose you licence in second.
    • Geoff1963
    • By Geoff1963 11th Jun 17, 1:14 AM
    • 1,033 Posts
    • 640 Thanks
    Geoff1963
    I was once told that the default speed limit is 30 mph, so if you haven't seen a sign for a while, it will be that ; except motorways, which are 70, and you know when you are on one.
    I have indeed only once seen a 30 mph repeater, I think where a housing estate is being built outside a village, and the 40 limit was recently moved beyond it.

    It is a common mistake to believe that : the limit increases when you first see the sign with the higher number, and passing the lower number is where you start easing off. A real speed of 45, means about 45 to 50 on the gauge.

    Extra advice for the OP :
    "A friend of mine was caught speeding . . ."
    Then again, I got forum flak, when I recounted the misbehaviour of the wife of a colleague.
    • treboeth
    • By treboeth 11th Jun 17, 1:33 AM
    • 830 Posts
    • 900 Thanks
    treboeth
    @docmatt

    I see nothing in the second post that suggests a speeder
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 11th Jun 17, 7:53 AM
    • 2,135 Posts
    • 1,359 Thanks
    Car 54
    I was once told that the default speed limit is 30 mph, so if you haven't seen a sign for a while, it will be that ; except motorways, which are 70, and you know when you are on one.
    Originally posted by Geoff1963
    You were told wrong: the default limit is 60, unless there is street lighting.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 11th Jun 17, 8:28 AM
    • 14,796 Posts
    • 13,148 Thanks
    AdrianC
    I was once told that...
    Originally posted by Geoff1963
    Not by the Highway Code or your driving instructor.
    • TeaRex
    • By TeaRex 11th Jun 17, 8:43 AM
    • 29 Posts
    • 34 Thanks
    TeaRex
    Thank you to everyone who took time to reply.

    Im fully deserving of all the comments saying I need to slow down, be more observant of the signs etc. And I will. Ive already changed my driving style hugely since getting the notice through. (I know I should have done this since my last course three years ago, or since I got my last points before that is thrown at me) This terrified feeling isn't going to go away anytime soon!

    As for the car, its leased and insured by the company I work for and I pay a small monthly sum to be able to use it for social purposes. Ive already called them to see how many points Im allowed and they said its as long as I have a valid licence, so up to 12.

    Just got to wait for the offer to come back now. Thanks again for all the replies.
    • pinkshoes
    • By pinkshoes 11th Jun 17, 9:39 AM
    • 15,119 Posts
    • 20,527 Thanks
    pinkshoes
    Just get a satnav which will clearly tell you the speed limit on the screen and can be set to beep loudly if you exceed the limit.
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 11th Jun 17, 9:40 AM
    • 14,796 Posts
    • 13,148 Thanks
    AdrianC
    Just get a satnav which will clearly tell you the speed limit on the screen and can be set to beep loudly if you exceed the limit.
    Originally posted by pinkshoes
    Or, simpler and cheaper, pay attention to what's clearly visible through the big sheet of glass in front of your face.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 11th Jun 17, 9:48 AM
    • 1,227 Posts
    • 790 Thanks
    Mercdriver
    Just get a satnav which will clearly tell you the speed limit on the screen and can be set to beep loudly if you exceed the limit.
    Originally posted by pinkshoes
    That's only as good as the satnav's database, its accuracy and how frequently you update it. It's better than nothing, but isn't failsafe.
    • GwylimT
    • By GwylimT 11th Jun 17, 9:55 AM
    • 5,781 Posts
    • 10,768 Thanks
    GwylimT
    Just get a satnav which will clearly tell you the speed limit on the screen and can be set to beep loudly if you exceed the limit.
    Originally posted by pinkshoes
    According to satnavs the limit on our road is 70mph, if you drove down it at 70mph you would be doing 50mph above the speed limit. If someone is unable to see speed limit signs they need to get down ti specsavers!
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 11th Jun 17, 4:54 PM
    • 11,466 Posts
    • 6,418 Thanks
    Strider590
    According to satnavs the limit on our road is 70mph, if you drove down it at 70mph you would be doing 50mph above the speed limit. If someone is unable to see speed limit signs they need to get down ti specsavers!
    Originally posted by GwylimT
    So you live on a 20 limited dual-carriageway?
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
Welcome to our new Forum!

Our aim is to save you money quickly and easily. We hope you like it!

Forum Team Contact us

Live Stats

92Posts Today

2,862Users online

Martin's Twitter