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    • alanq
    • By alanq 18th Apr 17, 11:19 AM
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    PM Seeks General Election For June 8th
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:19 AM
    PM Seeks General Election For June 8th 18th Apr 17 at 11:19 AM
    http://news.sky.com/

    Just announced that there will be a vote in parliament tomorrow to authorise this.
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    • Gadfium
    • By Gadfium 18th Apr 17, 11:24 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:24 AM
    A clever move by May.
    Labour have no chance of winning under Comrade Corbyn, the LibDems will offer no real alternative and UKIP have disappeared up their own fundaments.

    The Tories will get a landslide and be the authors of the hardest of hard Brexits.
    We might as well rename the place Airstrip One.
    • Anonymous101
    • By Anonymous101 18th Apr 17, 11:31 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:31 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:31 AM
    One horse race that if she wins gives her the mandate to proceed on Brexit etc on her own terms.
    • m_c_s
    • By m_c_s 18th Apr 17, 11:46 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:46 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:46 AM
    Could also impact SNP and scupper their ambitions - often pays to play the waiting game, let everyone show their hands and then strategically out manoeuvre them. Time will tell!
    • kidmugsy
    • By kidmugsy 18th Apr 17, 11:48 AM
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    The Coalition was limited in what it could do by virtue of being a coalition. The Conservatives are limited by their thin majority. If they get a bigger majority there's a better chance of a coherent set of policies, if only on Brexit. But that's where a coherent set of policies is most urgently needed, that and what's to be done about the budget deficit.

    Given the state of Labour, Libdems, and UKIP you'd have to say she'd deserve a decent majority. I'd be interested to see what happens to the SNP. Apparently as a government they're pretty bad. Will the voters respond to that?

    I'd prefer a conservative/libertarian government but that's not on offer, so Conservative it will have to be. "May in June", ho, ho, ho.
    Last edited by kidmugsy; 18-04-2017 at 11:50 AM.
    • Snakey
    • By Snakey 18th Apr 17, 11:59 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:59 AM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:59 AM
    She's got this one in the bag. Labour are unelectable right now, and nobody came away from the last goverment thinking "wow, aren't coalitions great, we should have more of them".

    She also potentially has any Brexit supporters who might be wavering from other parties, while being unlikely to lose the votes of any Remainers.
    • Glen Clark
    • By Glen Clark 18th Apr 17, 12:15 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 12:15 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 12:15 PM
    I'd be interested to see what happens to the SNP. .
    Originally posted by kidmugsy
    Thats an easy one. Politicians like a bigger empire so the Government will bribe the Scots with English taxpayers money to stay in the UK. They always do. Same as Gibraltar etc - all subsidized by the English taxpayer who get no vote on it.
    For society to function well, people generally need to feel that they have a fair chance of success through their ability and efforts. The more entrenched hereditary elites we have, the less likely people are to feel that way
    • Fatbritabroad
    • By Fatbritabroad 18th Apr 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 12:16 PM
    It's not remotely likely but as the lib dems have positioned themselves as the anti brexit party it would be very interesting if they got enough support to overturn the referendum. Anyone else think that would be even worse from an economic investment pov. We'd be in chaos
    • Gadfium
    • By Gadfium 18th Apr 17, 12:19 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 12:19 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 12:19 PM
    It's not remotely likely but as the lib dems have positioned themselves as the anti brexit party it would be very interesting if they got enough support to overturn the referendum. Anyone else think that would be even worse from an economic investment pov. We'd be in chaos
    Originally posted by Fatbritabroad
    You're right. It's not even remotely likely.
    • Fatbritabroad
    • By Fatbritabroad 18th Apr 17, 12:24 PM
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    You're right. It's not even remotely likely.
    Originally posted by Gadfium
    Thats why I said it even as someone who voted remain I really don't think it would be a good idea now we've come too far to turn back now
    • coastline
    • By coastline 18th Apr 17, 12:41 PM
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    The Coalition was limited in what it could do by virtue of being a coalition. The Conservatives are limited by their thin majority. If they get a bigger majority there's a better chance of a coherent set of policies, if only on Brexit. But that's where a coherent set of policies is most urgently needed, that and what's to be done about the budget deficit.

    Given the state of Labour, Libdems, and UKIP you'd have to say she'd deserve a decent majority. I'd be interested to see what happens to the SNP. Apparently as a government they're pretty bad. Will the voters respond to that?

    I'd prefer a conservative/libertarian government but that's not on offer, so Conservative it will have to be. "May in June", ho, ho, ho.
    Originally posted by kidmugsy
    A Tory victory will put to bed the unelected leader bit and it would be a surprise if any of the other parties managed to close the gap.
    I can't see the budget deficit being a major issue as we've only ran a surplus 7 times in 50 years..

    http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/blog-uploads/2012/10/borrowing-percent-gdp-69-14-500x370.png
    • Malthusian
    • By Malthusian 18th Apr 17, 1:01 PM
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    Anyone else think that would be even worse from an economic investment pov.
    Originally posted by Fatbritabroad
    The stockmarket certainly does.

    But no, it's not that likely. If you could really win a general election simply by promising to cancel Brexit, Labour would have got rid of Corbyn months ago, elected a plank of wood with "Centre-Left" drawn on it as their leader, and campaigned as a single-issue Stop Brexit party.

    The Lib Dems will only pick up people who are a) swing voters (so we're already talking less than 20% of the population) b) anti-Brexit (so less than half of that minority) c) are willing to overlook the betrayal of the student vote d) and the culture of sexual assault within the party e) and their loony Bible-thumping leader.
    • jimjames
    • By jimjames 18th Apr 17, 1:08 PM
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    their loony Bible-thumping leader.
    Originally posted by Malthusian
    For a moment I thought you were talking about the Tories.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
    • Keep pedalling
    • By Keep pedalling 18th Apr 17, 1:13 PM
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    Keep pedalling
    Why was this posted in savings and investments?
    • jimjames
    • By jimjames 18th Apr 17, 1:15 PM
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    Why was this posted in savings and investments?
    Originally posted by Keep pedalling
    Impact on investments? FTSE down by nearly 2%, largest amount since last year
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
    • Fatbritabroad
    • By Fatbritabroad 18th Apr 17, 1:17 PM
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    Impact on investments? FTSE down by nearly 2%, largest amount since last year
    Originally posted by jimjames
    Its a correction!

    time to buy at these much better valuations!

    Sarcasm btw
    • Keep pedalling
    • By Keep pedalling 18th Apr 17, 1:27 PM
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    Impact on investments? FTSE down by nearly 2%, largest amount since last year
    Originally posted by jimjames
    But none of that was mentioned by the OP, it's just an announcement that everyone is a,ready away of.
    • Thrugelmir
    • By Thrugelmir 18th Apr 17, 1:27 PM
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    Impact on investments? FTSE down by nearly 2%, largest amount since last year
    Originally posted by jimjames
    That's a reflection of the currency markets movement to the news.
    “ “Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism, and die on euphoria. The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy, and the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell.” Sir John Marks Templeton
    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 18th Apr 17, 2:02 PM
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    Pound up = FTSE100 down (and coincidentally oil down which hits the FTSE100 as well , BP down 2.5% or so i think?)
    • picks
    • By picks 18th Apr 17, 2:03 PM
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    A clever move by May.
    Labour have no chance of winning under Comrade Corbyn, the LibDems will offer no real alternative and UKIP have disappeared up their own fundaments.

    The Tories will get a landslide and be the authors of the hardest of hard Brexits.
    We might as well rename the place Airstrip One.
    Originally posted by Gadfium
    Indeed and it's a very cunning move by May - pretend to go along till 2020 and then abruptly give minimal notice of election. It's not only likely to prevent Corbyn getting his ragbag side to come together in time.

    The SNP is in principle the only political lot sufficiently united to be able to scupper aunty May's lemming rush into a rock hard Brexit. Aunty well knows SNP are limited in their number of MPs simply by geography. There was a rumour some time recently that SNP might set up local constituency offices south of the border and field parliamentary candidates for 2020. If this were in place SNP might become bigger than Labour in Westminster. Aunty May's cunning plan is to scupper that SNP idea by giving them no time to organise it for June.
    Last edited by picks; 18-04-2017 at 2:15 PM. Reason: clarification
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