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    • sidewinderflame
    • By sidewinderflame 15th Mar 17, 12:35 PM
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    Chasing up Estate Agents when selling
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    • 15th Mar 17, 12:35 PM
    Chasing up Estate Agents when selling 15th Mar 17 at 12:35 PM
    I've been trying to sell my flat since last August and despite varying interest it's still on the market. I changed agents in the New Year (last agent were very disorganised) and in the first couple of weeks my new agents got me about six viewings but that seems to have tailed off now and I haven't had a viewing or any contact from my agent for coming up to three weeks now.

    What I want to know is how often you all chase up your estate agents to find out what is going on and what do you even say with regards to the lack of viewings? I read conflicting info online and I don't want to irritate them to the point that they just don't want to deal with me.

    I've had about 12 viewings in total between the two agents, I had an offer of the asking price in the first few weeks which unfortunately fell through as their buyer pulled out (they still haven't sold either). I had a further offer some months later which I declined (it was a bit too low and they never improved on their intial offer) and a couple of weeks ago a gentleman had shortlisted mine with one other but went with the other. I am in London and the market is slow, there are quite a few flats round here that are still on the market and went on at a similar time to me. I've revisited the price issue several times but it seems to be about right and my agents are insistent that I don't drop it any further plus it's not something that has come up in feedback.
    The only negative I've had a couple of times is that the main door of the property is up some stairs and some of the older people that have viewed have said it could be an issue. Other than that I haven't had any bad feedback.

    Anyway as I haven't heard from my agent for a few weeks I thought I would contact them at the end of this week so wanted to know what stance people take and also how "on" your agents you all are?
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    • cooltt
    • By cooltt 15th Mar 17, 12:52 PM
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    It's good that you're listening to feedback, that's a step in right direction but last August? Hello? cobwebs!

    Never ever, ever, ever trust a word that comes out of an estate agents mouth even when they work for you (but even then it's all about their commission).

    If there's no movement with an agent for several months they simply aren't pushing your property its as simple as that. Change them.

    "Don't drop the price" no? It's the number 1 deciding factor as to why most people won't buy a property if it's merely "ok".

    It's almost impossible to compare like for like properties in the same area as everyone has a different idea of what little things matter to them. The bare bones of it is your property at present just isn't doing it and you need to find out why but i'd hazard a guess your asking price is a big factor.
    • sidewinderflame
    • By sidewinderflame 15th Mar 17, 1:14 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 1:14 PM
    Thank you for your comments.

    I do agree that the price could be the issue but having spoken to other estate agents around here they have all said that the market is still very slow and difficult so I'm wary about dropping the price in case it's more the market. I could drop the price and it still sit here doing nothing.
    In fairness to my current agent they have only had the property about 7/8 weeks and they have it for another 4 before I can change. Also the other two bedroom flats on the market in my area (there are about 4) have also been on the market since last year, some from June so it's not just mine that isn't selling. I will contact my agent again though to have the price conversation.

    Aside from that how often would you chase your agent or would you wait for them to come to you?
    • G_M
    • By G_M 15th Mar 17, 1:31 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 1:31 PM
    .... having spoken to other estate agents around here they have all said that the market is still very slow and difficult so I'm wary about dropping the price in case it's more the market.
    Originally posted by sidewinderflame
    If it IS 'the market' then that means that properties (including yours) will only sell at a lower price. Markets rise and fall. Where the market is 'slow', only lower prices will get buyers to buy. You're over-priced.

    So you have a choice. Either wait for the market to 'pick up' and for buyers to be ready to pay what you are asking, or drop your price to where the market now is.

    depends how urgent selling is to you.

    The other thing todo is review the marketing material. What are buyers seeing? Are the photos good? Is the property clean, tidy, attractve in the photos? are there enough photos? Is the description accurate, and does it include all the plus-points of the property?

    Get someone objective to review it all, and if necessary, instruct the agent to amend/improve it.
    Last edited by G_M; 15-03-2017 at 1:34 PM.
    • Surrey_EA
    • By Surrey_EA 15th Mar 17, 1:31 PM
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    I'm increasingly of the opinion that feedback from viewers is largely useless. Unless the feedback is "I would like to make an appointment for a 2nd viewing" or "I would like to offer £x" then I wouldn't worry too much.

    The chances are you won't be able to do anything about overcoming these rejections, even if you get told the real reason in the first place, which is unlikely.

    Ultimately whether a property sells or not is entirely down to price. Somewhere between £0 and whatever your asking price is there will be a buyer for your property. Make it cheap enough and you'll be flooded with offers.

    Obviously everyone wants to sell for as much as possible, but the trick is not being too optimistic that you put off prospective buyers. If you've not had a viewing for three weeks it seems like your price is putting people off even coming for a look.
    • ACG
    • By ACG 15th Mar 17, 1:31 PM
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    If the agents are not calling you, it probably means nobody is calling them.

    I put my house up for sale in January for £165k (which I think was too much but 2 agents said it was right), I was happy to accept £150k. It went up for sale and I had around 4-5 viewings the first week and nothing came about. 2 weeks later we had another 2-3 viewings and nothing came from them either - nobody had anything negative to say infact it was the opposite everyone had nice things to say but nobody was making an offer.

    So I reduced it to £155k, I had 3 viewings. All 3 of them had seen it on £165k but did not make a viewing as it was too much. 2 of the 3 made offers for £155k the same day as their viewings.

    I suppose really my point is that if people are not making offers it is up for too much. Even if you are happy to take an offer, people are not always willing to make one (which I found a little surprising). Had I not reduced the purchase price I would probably still have it up for sale now.

    One of my neighbours put their house up for £165k before I put mine upfor sale, mine is nicer/better - theirs is still up for sale 2 months down the line where as I am about 2-3 weeks away from completing the sale.

    I do not think agents always get it right. If there are plenty of similar properties up for sale for a similar price, there is a reason for it. Unless HS2 is being built in the back garden or something similar it is because the demand at that price is not there.

    You know the area and the prices I imagine as you appear to have done some research. I have no idea if you can afford to knock £5-10k off but if you can and are happy to, it may be worth testing the waters OR asking the agents to call the previous viewers to see if they would like the first opportunity for £10k less than it is on for before you reduce the purchase price publically?
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    • sidewinderflame
    • By sidewinderflame 15th Mar 17, 2:52 PM
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    This is all very useful stuff, and much appreciated for all your contributions. It all makes perfect sense so I've emailed my agent to ask about dropping the price and to open a dialogue to see what the best way forward is. I really need to sell soon as I can't go through yet another Autumn/ Winter of sitting here waiting.
    • ReadingTim
    • By ReadingTim 15th Mar 17, 3:15 PM
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    I think you need to be a bit more assertive with them - they work for you after all! They can think of you what they like, but if they don't deal with you, they don't get paid - it's as simple as that.

    Therefore, you need to phone them up and tell them you're dropping the price - either to a figure of your own determination, or to a figure they recommend to ensure a "quick sale". You should also tell them you're considering changing agents following the end of your lock-in period.

    Ultimately, they're your employees not your mates - treat 'em as such.
    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 15th Mar 17, 3:27 PM
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    I'm increasingly of the opinion that feedback from viewers is largely useless....
    Originally posted by Surrey_EA
    I agree. When I've viewed properties (to live in), I weigh-up the pros and cons of each property. Some of them are very subjective.

    When an EA asks for my feedback, they don't really want a detailed, considered appraisal - and similarly I don't want to give them the opportunity to recite pages 7 thru 56 of "Objection Handling for Estate Agents vol 1" to me.

    So I just give them a couple of lines to put in email to the seller - like the 4th bedroom is bit too small.
    Last edited by eddddy; 15-03-2017 at 3:29 PM.
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 15th Mar 17, 4:56 PM
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    People are not going to give you feedback that says that your flat is too expensive for them or that they don't like it. All that will happen is that they will buy something else instead.

    If people are not viewing your flat that is because they feel that they can get a better one cheaper.
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