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Noisy Wedding Parties in the Church next to my Flat!
19lottie82
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Hello! Was just after a little bit of advice with a problem, should it persist......
I live next to this church......
http://www.crmsociety.com/mackintoshchurch.aspx
And I have done for almost 4 years. The proximity is so close that I can see the back of the building from my bedroom window.
Recently they have started holding weddings, followed by receptions in the church hall. These go on until 1am and the noise is ridiculous.
The back of the building (which as I have explained, is almost directly below by bedroom) seems to be used as a smoking area. The music (full on celidh band, followed by a cheesy pop DJ set with an MC!) spills out and I can hear the drunken revellers out smoking and not being very quiet! Then at apx 1am they all spill out on to the street, which I can still hear, and bustle about for around twenty minutes while everyone says their goodbyes.
Last Friday my partners Children (8 and 12) were staying the night, so at 11pm,I phoned the police who passed my complaint on to the noise disturbance team. They phoned me back and commented that they could hear the music through the phone (!) and would go out to pay them a visit, but the music didn’t stop until the usual 1am, and I didn’t hear back from them.
The church is surrounded by flats, and it’s like living directly above a very noisy pub!
Should I email the charity that owns it? If it keeps happening I feel I will have no choice but to phone the police every time it happens…..
These weddings are due to have been booked for a year + in advance and these receptions just won’t be able to happen without disturbing people. I feel bad for the people who are having their wedding receptions in there, as I’m sure they don’t want the police / EH turning up BUT I just don’t understand how (if they even have one) the church could have been granted an entertainment license when it’s in a built up residential area?
Thanks!
I live next to this church......
http://www.crmsociety.com/mackintoshchurch.aspx
And I have done for almost 4 years. The proximity is so close that I can see the back of the building from my bedroom window.
Recently they have started holding weddings, followed by receptions in the church hall. These go on until 1am and the noise is ridiculous.
The back of the building (which as I have explained, is almost directly below by bedroom) seems to be used as a smoking area. The music (full on celidh band, followed by a cheesy pop DJ set with an MC!) spills out and I can hear the drunken revellers out smoking and not being very quiet! Then at apx 1am they all spill out on to the street, which I can still hear, and bustle about for around twenty minutes while everyone says their goodbyes.
Last Friday my partners Children (8 and 12) were staying the night, so at 11pm,I phoned the police who passed my complaint on to the noise disturbance team. They phoned me back and commented that they could hear the music through the phone (!) and would go out to pay them a visit, but the music didn’t stop until the usual 1am, and I didn’t hear back from them.
The church is surrounded by flats, and it’s like living directly above a very noisy pub!
Should I email the charity that owns it? If it keeps happening I feel I will have no choice but to phone the police every time it happens…..
These weddings are due to have been booked for a year + in advance and these receptions just won’t be able to happen without disturbing people. I feel bad for the people who are having their wedding receptions in there, as I’m sure they don’t want the police / EH turning up BUT I just don’t understand how (if they even have one) the church could have been granted an entertainment license when it’s in a built up residential area?
Thanks!
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The police don't deal with most noise complaints anymore, this sounds like a case for Environmental Health: you are unlikely to get action at the time of complaint on a specific event so don't worry about disturbing a particular wedding. Choosing to call the police instead of working with EH is far more likely to spoil someone's big day.
You want EH to liaise with the people who are making the bookings and they, in turn, are responsible for ensuring that doors are kept closed, the volume down and the event finishing at the right time. If needs be EH will insist on sound proofing being installed, someone being present to ensure guests stay inside and to ensure people move away in a timely manner. This is all exactly what is done with nightclubs, the council don't generally just pile in and shut them down. Licenses will all be public access on your council's website if you wish to know what the conditions are.
The more individual neighbours who complain to EH the better. In the short term use WAX ear plugs, they keep a lot of noise out and are very comfortable.Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️0 -
Hi FF - Thanks for the reply, very informative / helpful.
The police passed the complaint on to the EH, who called me and said they would visit.
Yes, I was thinking a letter signed by all 8 householders in my block, might be of use.
I already have a set of wax ear plugs (my OH is a dreadful snorer!), they are great BUT these receptions start at around 6pm and the noise fills the whole house, so I can't even sit and watch TV or have a bath without hearing it
I just can't really see a solution here as they need to supply the guests with a smoking area, and that, unfortunately, is underneath my window... but hopefully somethign will get sorted, and soon!0 -
19lottie82 wrote: »
I just can't really see a solution here as they need to supply the guests with a smoking area, and that, unfortunately, is underneath my window... but hopefully somethign will get sorted, and soon!
The noise is bad enough but this is totally unacceptable. What did EH say about the smoking?0 -
Just keep phoning the Noise Abatement Team - Glasgow City Council deal with this well and I'm surprised they didn't phone you back. Definitely chase them up and find out what they're doing about it.Get in touch with your councillor too - one of my 3 councillors is really good and you might be lucky with yours.Finally, you could get in touch with the licencing boardhttp://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Business/Licences/LicensingCommitteeContactUs.htmThe Evening Times might be interested if you feel you aren't getting anywhere. Might be worth getting in touch with Queens Cross Housing Association if they have properties which are affected?0
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19lottie82 wrote: »Hi FF - Thanks for the reply, very informative / helpful.
The police passed the complaint on to the EH, who called me and said they would visit.
Yes, I was thinking a letter signed by all 8 householders in my block, might be of use.
I already have a set of wax ear plugs (my OH is a dreadful snorer!), they are great BUT these receptions start at around 6pm and the noise fills the whole house, so I can't even sit and watch TV or have a bath without hearing it
I just can't really see a solution here as they need to supply the guests with a smoking area, and that, unfortunately, is underneath my window... but hopefully somethign will get sorted, and soon!
No: The more individual neighbours who complain to EH the better. You don't need to worry about what the solution is, the charity who permits these events does along with EH. The same rules apply to them as to any nightclub or public house.Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️0 -
Their website says they do concerts too. Lucky you
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ha they aren't bad tbh, i hear the odd wee spell of happy clapping now and again but it's not loud and they finish up by 8pm!0
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Just keep phoning the Noise Abatement Team - Glasgow City Council deal with this well and I'm surprised they didn't phone you back. Definitely chase them up and find out what they're doing about it.Get in touch with your councillor too - one of my 3 councillors is really good and you might be lucky with yours.Finally, you could get in touch with the licencing boardhttp://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Business/Licences/LicensingCommitteeContactUs.htmThe Evening Times might be interested if you feel you aren't getting anywhere. Might be worth getting in touch with Queens Cross Housing Association if they have properties which are affected?
great, thanks Beecher.0 -
For some local authorities the police do deal with noise outside of office hours, so the advice about police not dealing with this anymore isn't correct. You need to find out what happens in your local area as it differs based on your council and your police force.
In terms of EH, they only need one complainant to investigate. To be honest, a petition from all your neighbours isn't necessary, and really just slows down the investigation because whoever is dealing with the complaint will have to liaise with 8 people rather than 1, which just wastes a lot of time. It is better for EH to deal with the individual who is affected the most in their property, because then it will be easier for them to identify a problem and serve a notice.
I would also be contacting the licensing department to see whether there is a Temporary Event Notice in place for the events. Churches don't need to have a Premises Licence, but they will need a TEN in place for selling alcohol. Premises are limited to the number of these that they can have each year, which is currently 12.
Start keeping a diary now about the times of the noise and what affect it has on you, you can probably download diarys from your councils website.0
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