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    wireframe
    Curious - "Adult Acting" as income supplement?
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    • 24th Jun 10, 10:58 AM
    Curious - "Adult Acting" as income supplement? 24th Jun 10 at 10:58 AM
    Remember, this is a family-friendly board, so lets keep it clean.

    I know a bunch of the girls here work as phone operators for adult chat lines and from what I read of their (very long) thread, they're doing a fine job, making good money, and are really helpful in encouraging others who are interested in the same.

    I'm just curious as to whether any boys or girls on here would consider appearing or performing in "adult films"?
    What considerations would affect your decision (assuming there was no wierd stuff)?
    What sort of rate of pay would you expect?
    Would you expect royalties? How does that work?
    Would you feel more comfortable in your own home? on a set? in a rented room?
    Apart from the obvious, what might put you off?
    (please, no silly answers, this is a genuine query)

    Before anyone goes mental, I don't have a "special film company", or any kind of financial interest in this market at all. I'm just curious.

    MODS: I checked the rules, and this doesn't seem to break any of them, but please (re)move this and PM me if you feel its not appropriate...
    Last edited by wireframe; 24-06-2010 at 12:15 PM.
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    • Amber Sunshine
    • By Amber Sunshine 24th Jun 10, 12:09 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:09 PM
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    There's a huge difference between chatlines and porn. So no.
    • pelirocco
    • By pelirocco 24th Jun 10, 12:11 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:11 PM
    Why aren't you asking the ''boys''?
  • wireframe
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:13 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:13 PM
    Why aren't you asking the ''boys''?
    Originally posted by pelirocco
    Because I assume that given an opportunity, any male would leap at the chance to participate and be paid to do so.

    I'll amend the original post

    EDIT: fix'd
    Last edited by wireframe; 24-06-2010 at 12:17 PM.
  • wireframe
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:15 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:15 PM
    There's a huge difference between chatlines and porn. So no.
    Originally posted by Amber Sunshine
    Arguably true.
    But it is still an "Adult Industry".
    And I wasn't targeting the chatline girls specifically. Just anyone.
  • lucylucky
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:15 PM
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    I know someone that was offered a great deal of money to direct some adult stuff, he declined as he did not approve.
  • wireframe
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:17 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:17 PM
    I know someone that was offered a great deal of money to direct some adult stuff, he declined as he did not approve.
    Originally posted by lucylucky
    Interesting. What sort of films did he work on when he got the offer? Just normal, regular "director"?
  • lucylucky
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:20 PM
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    He was being asked to direct some TV stuff for the "specialist" channels on digital tv. All late night stuff.

    He worked on documentaries mainly for mainstream tv
    • jasonwatkins
    • By jasonwatkins 24th Jun 10, 12:27 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:27 PM
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    • 24th Jun 10, 12:27 PM
    Because I assume that given an opportunity, any male would leap at the chance to participate and be paid to do so.
    Originally posted by wireframe
    And 95% of "regular" males wouldn't be able to perform to the required standard either. I've read a few articles in the past from people who work in the industry who've always said that, in general, many men think they could "easily" become porn stars but when they're actually put into a situation where they're asked to perform on camera, in a room full of strangers, they usually can't do it.

    There's a website called "ausmodels" that is like an online modelling directory with many, many women who are also willing to do hardcore shoots.

    I've seen rates range from £75 pounds to £150 pounds per hour for boy/girl hardcore.

    Personally, I think if it's done sensibly and, above all, professionally then I really don't have an issue with it.
    • scotsbob
    • By scotsbob 24th Jun 10, 1:34 PM
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    scotsbob
    And 95% of "regular" males wouldn't be able to perform to the required standard either.
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    Originally posted by jasonwatkins
    95% ????????????

    Do you have a source for that statistic? Or is it just hearsay and rumour?

    I would have a lot of doubts about that figure being correct.
    • Jellywobble123
    • By Jellywobble123 24th Jun 10, 1:44 PM
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    I would have thought that no matter how skint you were self respect would stop you doing such a thing.....not only that but think of the health risks! NO WAY!! Take in ironing,do cleaning or whatever but dont lower yourself to doing that! You may as well stand on a street corner! Chatlines as already mentioned are a different thing all together,theres no comparison...
    • flyforfun
    • By flyforfun 24th Jun 10, 1:46 PM
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    flyforfun
    95% ????????????

    Do you have a source for that statistic? Or is it just hearsay and rumour?

    I would have a lot of doubts about that figure being correct.
    Originally posted by scotsbob

    Viewed the otherway, there's probably only 5% of the population worth watching.
    • flyforfun
    • By flyforfun 24th Jun 10, 1:50 PM
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    flyforfun
    ... Chatlines as already mentioned are a different thing all together,theres no comparison...
    Originally posted by Jellywobble123
    Well, that all depends on your view I'm afraid. I know a few people that are quite proud of their bodies and happy to be imortalised on film. I also have some hard core, very religious friends who think that going to the beach is tantamount to sex, so you'll never get everyone to agree on this.
    • jasonwatkins
    • By jasonwatkins 24th Jun 10, 2:23 PM
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    jasonwatkins
    I would have a lot of doubts about that figure being correct.
    Originally posted by scotsbob
    I watched a documentary on channel 4 a few years ago about a woman who worked in the industry as a director and she mentioned it as a figure.

    Obviously, if i can find any corroborating evidence i'll link to it.

    But I would personally say it's probably not far from being the truth.

    I would have thought that no matter how skint you were self respect would stop you doing such a thing.....
    Originally posted by Jellywobble123
    i think that's a very blinkered view to be honest. sure, if the adult industry isn't something you approve of then that's fine but as 'flyforfun' said, there are many people are very proud of their bodies and would have no qualms about being filmed.

    not only that but think of the health risks!
    Originally posted by Jellywobble123
    again, a very blinkered view. many large adult studios in the states have a mandatory condom rule for all adult films and mandatory aids tests every 4 weeks as well.

    it's only when you start straying outside the mainstream to the so-called 'gonzo' amateurs that you start to find less than savoury things going on.

    but again, as flyforfun said, you'll never get any real agreement on it. people disapprove and brand it "sick" simply because of what it is, but if you're someone who chooses to do it willingly and properly, then you can make a lot of money.
  • wireframe
    Of course chatlines are an adult industry. But it is not 'arguably true' that there is a huge gap between chatlines and adult films.
    Originally posted by Amber Sunshine
    Ah, I see you've changed your arguement. Your original statement said
    There's a huge difference between chatlines and porn.
    by Amber Sunshine
    And there I would disagree. You say yourself in your thread you are asked to do things for the pleasure of others and you know what they're upto on the other end of the line. Visual porn, Audio porn, its all porn, and you're the "actress". However, if you had originally said:
    there is a huge gap between chatlines and adult films
    by Amber Sunshine
    I would have agreed completely.
    You seem to imply that there is a connection between the two.
    by Amber Sunshine
    You mentioned both industries in the same sentence and then stated there was a huge difference. I simply mentioned your previous thread as an example of people making money in an adult industry. I was very careful to draw a distinction.
    Frankly your original question seems an odd thread and nothing to do with this board.
    by Amber Sunshine
    Why? Do you think there is no money to be had in the Adult industry? What a bizarre statement, from you of all people.
    Last edited by wireframe; 24-06-2010 at 3:28 PM.
  • wireframe
    Good to hear, I am producing a new epsiode in the popular Bear and twink series of adult videos and am casting for the role of twink soon. Send your details by PM.
    Originally posted by adouglasmhor
    Cool. Seeing as this is an "income supplement" thread, and I'm asking a legitimate question, and you're not deliberately trolling as that is against forum rules, tell me the prices you charge, the rates you pay, the hours, the agency you work for (or run) and any medical certs I may need. Post them in the thread so everyone can see.
    • Amber Sunshine
    • By Amber Sunshine 24th Jun 10, 3:49 PM
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    Amber Sunshine
    I'm now very dubious about your motives for posting this thread. You stated that you were merely curious, so then what does your thread have to do with 'upping your income'? You then contradict yourself by asking do I not think there is money to be made in the industry (yes there is, but not by the people who do the hard work).

    Yes, I work on chatlines. I am not ashamed of that, I earn an honest living and I work very hard for it.

    You say 'You say yourself in your thread you are asked to do things for the pleasure of others and you know what they're upto on the other end of the line.' In the interests of accuracy, can you quote me on this? Have you been lurking there?

    I'm going back to earning a living and leaving you to your trolling.

    Ah, I see you've changed your arguement. Your original statement said

    And there I would disagree. You say yourself in your thread you are asked to do things for the pleasure of others and you know what they're upto on the other end of the line. Visual porn, Audio porn, its all porn, and you're the "actress". However, if you had originally said:

    I would have agreed completely.

    You mentioned both industries in the same sentence and then stated there was a huge difference. I simply mentioned your previous thread as an example of people making money in an adult industry. I was very careful to draw a distinction.

    Why? Do you think there is no money to be had in the Adult industry? What a bizarre statement, from you of all people.
    Originally posted by wireframe
  • wireframe
    I'm now very dubious about your motives for posting this thread. You stated that you were merely curious, so then what does your thread have to do with 'upping your income'? You then contradict yourself by asking do I not think there is money to be made in the industry (yes there is, but not by the people who do the hard work).
    Originally posted by Amber Sunshine
    My curiosity is in the money to be made from adult films. Upping one's income. I'm not sure how much clearer this could be.
    Yes, I work on chatlines. I am not ashamed of that, I earn an honest living and I work very hard for it.
    by Amber Sunshine
    Good. I was very impressed by your previous thread about chatlines. It was unbiased, and helpful. I'm surprised by your attitude in this thread.
    You say 'You say yourself in your thread you are asked to do things for the pleasure of others and you know what they're upto on the other end of the line.' In the interests of accuracy, can you quote me on this? Have you been lurking there?
    by Amber Sunshine
    Lurking in your thread? I've read some of it, it is 236 pages long. I can't lay my hands on a direct quote FROM YOU, but I found one that suits my needs just as well - you didn't disagree with a single word of this comment, so I assume it is all correct, given the vehemence with which you've attacked this thread:
    For instance..an op complaining that some sick guy called her wanting her to pee her panties..she was disgusted he asked that, how dare he she said!!! Who the heck does she think she is???
    Its a phone sex line..and peeing your pants is nothing compared to some things your asked to do (all legal of course)...so if any of you girls are out there are reading this and thinking too that peeing your pants is vulgar then don't bother applying...
    by HappyPSO
    Sounds like you do things for the pleasure of others to me.
    I'm going back to earning a living and leaving you to your trolling.
    by Amber Sunshine
    With nothing to add, the thread is better off without you. Which is a shame.
  • Gazing On Sunsets
    Had a friend who, with his partner, used to make adult gay films - as directors, mainly. But they didn't make any money. Now they do other stuff. I was told they were "too nice" about it, and tried to be ethical. Not sure *quite* what that means, I don't know the details.

    I write and edit "alternative erotica" and there's not a lot of money in that, but it brings in pocket money each month - I'm paid royalties.
    • jasonwatkins
    • By jasonwatkins 24th Jun 10, 6:59 PM
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    I suppose with the nature of the industry, it's always going to be overcrowded so finding that niche or that unique selling point is going to be next to impossible.
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