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Old 23-06-2010, 6:42 PM
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Hi just had my mum on the phone worried as my sister gets a life DLA award which my mum had to go to court to get fw years ago, she's worried about how these changes will affect my sister
as she is severely disabled will she still have to go through the new dla medical? her condition has also got worse since she claimed? as she has a life award and they told my mum my sister will never have to have another medical ever again has this now changed?

If anyone that has a DLA award for life do they now any more about it?

Also are these changes going to happen straight away or 2013?

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Old 23-06-2010, 6:45 PM
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It said everybody so presume she will need one.
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Old 23-06-2010, 6:54 PM
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Even before this was announced yesterday, people were randomly assessd.
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Old 23-06-2010, 7:10 PM
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hi thans for replies bt my sister has never been called up before as her's was a life time award and they told my mum she is so bad she will have have to have another medical again.
also he didn't say nothing about life time awards so my mum is confused.
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Assessments for people on IB and ESA have been carried out for months since Labour government announced changes in order to get people off Incapacity and into work.

The trouble is now that everyone is panicking and no-one will know what is happening exactly until they announce further, and that may not be until October.

Yes we can speculate, and all of us who are on DLA will naturally worry about it. I have only recently received a letter regarding my Incapacity assessment, but although I am on HRC and HRM INDEFINITELY I'm sure I will also be assessed AGAIN!

Try not to worry too much until the time they do announce more details and exactly how they will go about it.

It seems they are going to carry on with medical assessments for people on IB/ESA as they haven't announced otherwise - I didn't hear them mention IB at all in the Budget. I wonder whether they will reassess those on IB which are also on DLA and who have already been assessed this time round?
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also he didn't say nothing about life time awards so my mum is confused.
He didn't go into any details, I don't think they have worked on the details of how or what they are going to do exactly. He has only said that it is a very complex issue - something along those lines on GMTV this morning, when they put questions to him regarding welfare.
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hi thans for replies bt my sister has never been called up before as her's was a life time award and they told my mum she is so bad she will have have to have another medical again.
also he didn't say nothing about life time awards so my mum is confused.
Lifetime awards are now known as Indefinite awards. As others have said, they are subject to review in the same way as time limited awards are.

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Assessments for people on IB and ESA have been carried out for months since Labour government announced changes in order to get people off Incapacity and into work.
Assessments for disability benefits have been carried out for years, and have always been part of the application/ review process.
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I am severly disabled and as long as the medicals are done at home or in a place thats totally accessable with disabled parking Im all for it.

I have never had a medical since my accident in 1992 and people like me should be reviewed and most other people already get reviewed anyway, just because I got a life time award dosnt mean that no one should look at my case again and Im confident that my double high will be safe.

Some people can improve and thats why medicals are needed, people like me cant but how are the DWP to know that if we arnt assessed?
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hi thans for replies bt my sister has never been called up before as her's was a life time award and they told my mum she is so bad she will have have to have another medical again.
also he didn't say nothing about life time awards so my mum is confused.
sorry to say that she will have to have a medical sometime around 2013
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Old 24-06-2010, 8:35 AM
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I don't get the benefits myself but I'm interested on behalf of my friend who does.
She had an industrial accident and was awarded lifetime awards of Industrial injuries and DLA back in 1996.
She had medicals for both and was awarded on first application and has not been asked to review her awards at any time since but then it is accepted her injury won't/can't improve neither.
We were looking at the original award letters she received for both benefits and nowhere on the letters does it mention that the lifetime awards could be revoked.
I realise that lifetime awards are no more and indefinate awards have replaced them however I wonder what would be the outcome if a lifetime award was challenged in court.
Afterall being given an original "lifetime award" is not the same as being given an original "indefinate award" no matter how much the government think they might change the wording to legally cover themselves for claimants of that time.
These awards clearly state "for Life" and do not have with the ability to be reviewed at a later date or periodically anywhere on the award letter.
I'd be interested to see the outcome of a legal challenge of a lifetime award
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Old 24-06-2010, 9:34 AM
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On MoneyBox Live this afternoon (23 June) (Radio 4) it was stated quite clearly that yes, only DLA claimants "of working age" will need to be reassessed, which obviously helps the older people and children if true.

I copied the above text from another post on the forums re: DLA - does anyone else have any input regarding above.

I logged on to listen to the broadcast and it did say what it says above.
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I was following in detail on the day of the budget, the broadcaster clearly said the new medical assesment was designed to replace the complicated forms for claiming DLA. He also stated the target was a 10% DLA budget cut.

It begs 2 questions on my part;

You cannot possibly sit a medical without the assesor having written info on the table, and also how much notice will be taken of doctors reports. I am a DLA claimant as several others here after a medical accident and RTA accident. I have also been through the IB medical with no issues except that of the proffesional ability of the actual assesing doctor.

The other issue is that this process will cost in itself, so I wonder what the actual target in payout costs is on the agenda
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Assessments for disability benefits have been carried out for years, and have always been part of the application/ review process.
Yes thanks dmg, I know this and I have recently gone through renewal etc. I was referring to the new 'Labour Government's' plans that were put into action with regards Incapacity and ESA and their medical assessments - I recently had a letter regarding an Incapacity Assessment (not DLA) as I am on IB.
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I am severly disabled and as long as the medicals are done at home or in a place thats totally accessable with disabled parking Im all for it.

I have never had a medical since my accident in 1992 and people like me should be reviewed and most other people already get reviewed anyway, just because I got a life time award dosnt mean that no one should look at my case again and Im confident that my double high will be safe.

Some people can improve and thats why medicals are needed, people like me cant but how are the DWP to know that if we arnt assessed?
Absolutely agree.
No matter what award anyone gets, random medicals should be compulsory.

Anyone who is genuinely in need will be fine,it will weed out malingerers though.
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I don't get the benefits myself but I'm interested on behalf of my friend who does.
She had an industrial accident and was awarded lifetime awards of Industrial injuries and DLA back in 1996.
She had medicals for both and was awarded on first application and has not been asked to review her awards at any time since but then it is accepted her injury won't/can't improve neither.
We were looking at the original award letters she received for both benefits and nowhere on the letters does it mention that the lifetime awards could be revoked.
I realise that lifetime awards are no more and indefinate awards have replaced them however I wonder what would be the outcome if a lifetime award was challenged in court.
Afterall being given an original "lifetime award" is not the same as being given an original "indefinate award" no matter how much the government think they might change the wording to legally cover themselves for claimants of that time.
These awards clearly state "for Life" and do not have with the ability to be reviewed at a later date or periodically anywhere on the award letter.
I'd be interested to see the outcome of a legal challenge of a lifetime award
ok, so someone on a lifetime award is given a new drug 15 years down the line and is vastly improved, you dont think that they should have a reassessment at all?
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ok, so someone on a lifetime award is given a new drug 15 years down the line and is vastly improved, you dont think that they should have a reassessment at all?
Not unless in the particular case I was talking about the drug is able to grow a new spinal cord which is why the assessment ended in a lifetime award.
There will be a lot of people with these awards who have problems that are not treatable or have no chance of improving by any means.
That is why they were given lifetime awards.
Is re-assessing them going to make them suddenly well.
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Not unless in the particular case I was talking about the drug is able to grow a new spinal cord which is why the assessment ended in a lifetime award.
There will be a lot of people with these awards who have problems that are not treatable or have no chance of improving by any means.
That is why they were given lifetime awards.
Is re-assessing them going to make them suddenly well.
And I was talking in the future when technology or medical science may have produced something that will help or benefit then....that is not available today.
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I have a lifetime (well, indefinate) award. No amount of medication will reverse the damage on my optic nerves.
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my two daughters have life time awards too...no amount of technology will make their profound learning and the associated disabilites disappear and turn them both into TYPCIAL teenagers.
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I must get back to my goal weight....
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there's a 40 page thread that digs a bit (a lot actually) into this subject. Go to the other post, sorry no link
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