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Car Wont Start - how do i get it to garage?
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Old 06-10-2009, 9:20 AM
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Default Car Wont Start - how do i get it to garage?

the garage i need to take my car to, doesnt do recovery. they suggested i use a friend/relative who has breakdown cover, and use that to get myself towed in, but i dont know anyone who has this

their next suggestion was to get a tow, but i dont know anyone who has a large enough car to be able to tow mine

ive tried googling 'vehicle recovery and breakdown', but all i get is AA, RAC, etc. and all their sites say you cannot take out a policy if the car is in a breakdown situation. Im not sure i want to take out a a policy either, and the website doesnt mention they offer assistance, if you arent a member. so do they do one-off collection/delivery, and what would the costs be? i only need to transport the car about 1 mile

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Old 06-10-2009, 9:23 AM
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take out the relevant cover and wait a bit, or look in the yellow pages for recovery firms/garages with a truck

when i was younger we used to push broken down cars with another car!
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Old 06-10-2009, 9:52 AM
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look in the yellow pages for recovery firms/garages with a truck
We did this, find a local one, IIRC it only cost us 30 to get it to the garage.
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This is why I am in the rac, truly not meaning to be clever but that little bit each month ensures you don't have expensive call out fees.

Have you get anyone who can tow you?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:05 AM
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Look up "breakdown recovery" in your yellow pages.

(Couldn't you ask down at your local for someone in the RAC (most members have personal membership not connected to a particular car) to help you out for a tenner and a pint?)

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the garage i need to take my car to, doesnt do recovery. they suggested i use a friend/relative who has breakdown cover, and use that to get myself towed in, but i dont know anyone who has this



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Why does it need to go to one particular garage?

Could no one else fix it? A mobile mechanic perhaps?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:14 AM
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Or ask the garage to collect it ?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:20 AM
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My Dad did this a few years back. Broke down away from home but just left it there and got a friend to pick him up.

When he got home he took out AA cover. Waited a week and then went back to the car and called the AA. Luckily he'd broken down on a residential street so the car didn't look out of place there.

Good job he did join he had them out loads of times after that.
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Why does it need to go to one particular garage?

Could no one else fix it? A mobile mechanic perhaps?
it doesnt need to go to one particular garage, but when you find one who you can trust, you prefer to keep using them

It needs a new ecu, and i assume only a main dealer would have the software to programme them anyway?

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Is the garage you want to take it to a mean dealer, if so I'm really surprised they don't do 'recovery'.
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it doesnt need to go to one particular garage, but when you find one who you can trust, you prefer to keep using them

It needs a new ecu, and i assume only a main dealer would have the software to programme them anyway?

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I wouldn't have thought so. What car is it?
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:18 AM
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most garages have this kind of software Im sure. We dont use a main dealer, and our guy sorts all our problems & resets the computer
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It needs a new ecu,
No it doesn't. It needs the existing ECU repairing.

http://www.bluehawkelectronics.co.uk/
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No it doesn't. It needs the existing ECU repairing.

http://www.bluehawkelectronics.co.uk/
ive enquired about sending it away for repair, but they charge a testing fee to see whether it is repairable, with repair costs quoted at 300+, in addition to the garages labour for removal and fitting. If its not repairable, thats even more money down the drain, and with a new one costing 650 fitted, i cant really afford to pay out for any other eventualities

Also, i have no technical knowledge, so wouldnt even know how to remove the ecu myself, for sending away - is this something i can easily do myself

how long would repair take, as if i buy new, ill be up and running within a few days, and have access to a courtesy car. but if DIY, how long would i be without a car?

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Most used car dealers have a car transporter, contact one of them.

I would advise against towing a car with a none running engine, the brakes and the steering will not be fully effective, assuming it has power steering.
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What makes you think it is an ecu fault?

Normally the ecu is one of the most reliable part of the cars electronics and I remember one of the ecu repair people saying that the majority of units that come back as faulty to them are actually fine and the fault is normally either a wiring/connector or sensor issue.

Post the car details together with the symptoms and see what advice you get.
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ive enquired about sending it away for repair, but they charge a testing fee to see whether it is repairable, with repair costs quoted at 300+, in addition to the garages labour for removal and fitting. If its not repairable, thats even more money down the drain, and with a new one costing 650 fitted, i cant really afford to pay out for any other eventualities

Also, i have no technical knowledge, so wouldnt even know how to remove the ecu myself, for sending away - is this something i can easily do myself

how long would repair take, as if i buy new, ill be up and running within a few days, and have access to a courtesy car. but if DIY, how long would i be without a car?

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Any car forum specialised to whatever marque you drive will be able to tell you exactly where the ECU is. Normally, they're at the top of the engine bay, or underneath a bit of carpet, or elsewhere similarly placed. They're almost always extremely accessible, and easily removed with only 5 of tools.

The other option is that you buy a new ECU, have it fitted, and then find that it doesn't fix the problem, because the original ECU was working correctly.
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What makes you think it is an ecu fault?

Normally the ecu is one of the most reliable part of the cars electronics and I remember one of the ecu repair people saying that the majority of units that come back as faulty to them are actually fine and the fault is normally either a wiring/connector or sensor issue.

Post the car details together with the symptoms and see what advice you get.
car was initally juddering, but keeping the revs high you could just about drive it. managed to limp to the nearest garage, and they plugged in into the examiner, and it came back with an ECU fault. They quoted me 600 for new ECU, plus another 150 for replacing plugs/leads

Decided to get it home and have a think. on way home symptoms got worse, jolting, kept feeling like it would stall, then it would kick back in . once i got the car home, i couldnt get it to start the next day

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Is the garage you want to take it to a mean dealer, if so I'm really surprised they don't do 'recovery'.
Its the first time I've heard of a garage not being more helpful - especially if you are a loyal customer or they are a main dealer...
What do they suggest - a tow? If thats the case then explain you don't have a friend with suitable vehicle and could they do it as part of the repair cost...
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i would put new plugs and leads on it to see what happens, before thinking about the ecu
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