Slimming World Support thread

[judderman62]

Well our original thread seems to have vanished - so have started this new thread post away.

[fluffynit]

Ah a nice new thread.

Just got a copy of new magazine, so away for a cup of tea and nose at the new plan

[judderman62]

Originally Posted by angie loves veg

'Shiny new thread' hurrah!!

What I should do here though is put the link for the SW recipes thread. shall edit later.

thanks alv - any mods seeing this can you throw any light on what happened to the original thread please ?

[Skint_Catt]

There were posts I was going to copy and keep (receipes that aren't in the receipes thread) and now they're all gone! Bit heavy handed to delete the entire thread!

[judderman62]

Originally Posted by Skint_Catt

There were posts I was going to copy and keep (receipes that aren't in the receipes thread) and now they're all gone! Bit heavy handed to delete the entire thread!

exactly - they don't usually do this - they usually just lock don't they

[Flat Eric]

ABOUT SLIMMING WORLD

I post below what I typed up for a friend. sorry it is so long and the formatting a bit cranky but I have just pasted it in from word.-

SLIMMING WORLD
The Slimming World plan is a healthy approach to eating for life, not a diet. There are different plans you can follow according to your food preferences i.e. whether you are a meat person or a potato and pasta person.
There are five different plans you can choose from but I will only go into three of the plans here.
Before I go into the different plans, I will explain about how different food items are classified.
FREE FOOD
If something is classed as a FREE FOOD – you can eat as much as you want! i.e. you don’t have to measure or weigh. So if something is FREE FOOD – you can eat unlimited amounts.
Some FREE FOOD is SUPERFREE
This means the FOOD ITEM is free on both days i.e. whether you are following the red or green day plan.
So you can eat as much as you want of these foods with no thought as to whether you are on a red or green day. I.e. if you stuck to superfree all day – you could then decide at teatime whether you wanted a red or green eveningmeal.
Superfree foods include items such as
Mullerlight yogurts, eggs, quark. Most fruit and vegetables. Refer to the SUPERFREE list that I gave you. If you aim to eat at least SIX TO EIGHT items of SUPERFREE food each day, then this will help aid your weight loss.
Food items which are FREE but are not SUPERFREE INCLUDE for example
Peas/sweetcorn/parsnips/ – which you can only eat on a green day freely (i.e. eat as much as you want) BUT would have to be synned if you ate them on a red day.
Some foods are SPEED FOODS. In the Food Optimising book, a SPEED FOOD is denoted by the symbol “S” or “SS”.
Speed Foods are low or extra low in energy density. In English ! this means that you would have to eatLESSof a SPEED FOOD to feel just as full as if you ate a NON SPEED FOOD.
For example Grapes/Bananas are NOT SPEED FOODS so if you ate 50g of raspberries, you would feel just as full as if you ate 100g grapes (i.e. you would be eating more grapes to get the same feeling of fullness).
Free foods which have the symbols “F” or “FF" are high or extra high in fibre meaning they are filling and good for the digestive system.
Free Foods which have the symbols “H” or HH" are particular nutritious or are vital for good health – you should choose some of these every day.

Healthy Extras You supplement your consumption of FREE FOOD by the addition of HEALTHY EXTRAS
The Healthy Extras will vary depending on whether you are following a red, green or extra easy day.
your Healthy Extra A choice is your calcium (milk or cheese),
your Healthy Extra B choice is your fibre. (bread / cereal etc)
The food optimising book lists the different healthy extras you are allowed according to which day you are following i.e. on a green day, you might have a Healthy Extra portion of ham but if you were following a red day, you might have a healthy extra option of a 227g weighed jacket.
The menus in the magazine that you are following will automatically incorporate the healthy extra choices.
I will go into more detail about the healthy extras when I talk about the plans.
FINALLY WE HAVE SYNS
Your syns give you the opportunity to enjoy the odd treat. As a new member to Slimming World, you would be allowed 15 syns but if you don’t have very much weight to lose, your consultant may ask you to keep to 10 to 12 syns a day. Syns can be used for many things including alcohol/chocolate/your coffee drink/tomato sauce/ crisps etc. Some items for example - pizzas have huge amount of syns.

At your local Slimming World class you would be able to pick up a directory (cost about £8) which lists all the different manufacturers of foods and the syn value.
Syn values can also be checked online.
It is not sensible to save up your syns so that you can binge say if you have a night out. You should instead flexi syn meaning that for the occasion when you say are going out for a meal, you allow yourself “x” amount of syns. You then go out and enjoy yourself, knowing that you are staying in control and then the next day you can get straight back on the plan.
If you go out with no prior planning, it is easy to think the next day, Oh I blew it last night, might as well have toast with lashings of butter, that cream cake for a snack whereas if you can say I allowed myself 40 syns last night, I stuck to that, I kept in control then keeps you better focussed to stay on track for the rest of the week.
Slimming World whilst a healthy eating approach to life isn’t a ball and chain that you must carry round with you meaning that you NEVER EVER AGAIN can enjoy pizza/chocolate fudge cake/ that bottle of wine or two/ that kingsize bar of galaxy, that meal out. Its about sensible eating. Some people who do SW follow it 110%, never waiver. Others like me, take a more relaxed approach to it. If I lose a pound, great, If I put a pound on, oh well – there is always next week and during those weeks when I completely binge and may be put on 3 pounds I know that SW is there for me when I want it. I think my aim with the plan is to stick with the plan Monday to Thursday and relax at the weekend.
RED DAYS
This would suit you if you enjoy eating a lot of meat/fish
I.e.
Steak / gammon/ pork / lamb/ liver / bacon / ham / chicken /
Fish / monkfish / hake / halibut / lemon sole / prawn / skate to name but a few!
so
Roast dinners with lots of meat and very few potatoes
steak and salad
prawn salads
sausages (NB most sausages have to be synned but the Morrisons Eat Smart Pork Sausages (found in the chiller) are free on a red day.
Home made burgers using lean or very low fat mince
chilli using very lean low fat mince.

shepherds pie / cottage pie substituting the topping with swede (as not allowed potatoe on a red day in that quantity)
chillis say but no rice or noodles with it unless synned and a decent amount of rice/noodles would be too many syns.
So on a RED DAY yourmeat will be free. You should always cut all fat away from any meat and buy lean meat where possible I.e lean or low fat mince.
You can supplement your meals with your veggies of course but its important to note that on a RED DAY peas, sweetcorn and parsnips are NOT free. I can't tell you why because I don't know! But you can have 198 parsnips (raw weight) as one of your Healthy Extra B Options
If you had sweetcorn or peas – you would need to syn it. I can find out the syn values if you wish. (let me know)
You can further supplement your meals with healthy extras.
On a red day, you are allowed
2 Healthy A Options
2 Healthy B Options


A options to remind you are dairy – I.e milk cheese
B options are your fibre so bread / cereal / soup.


Some of the Healthy Extras are specific to the day you are following so on a RED DAY these are some of the Healthy Extras you can pick from include
227g baking potato (including skin) raw weight
198g new potatoes with skin
198g parsnips raw weigh
142g baked beans in tomato sauce
100g wholemal pasta, boiled weigh, 35g dried weight
71g garden peas, boiled


HEALTHY EXTRAS applicable to whichever day you are following I.e red or green include 28g Alpen (any variety) and 1 Oat/scan bran (scan bran is sold at SW classes)
Hi fi bar (any flavour) (only available at slimming world class)
28g Nestle Shredded wheat honey nut/triple berry
28g Ready brek original and 1 ryvita dark rye/original/sesame
2 weetabix
1 weetabix and 3 ryvita high fibre crackerbread
5 oat / scan bran (avaialble from slimming world classes)
30g bag ryvita minis – any variety
227g apple baked and 113g blackberries stewed
227g apple, baked and 1 level tbsp mincemeat
71g apricots ready to eat
397g fruit cocktail canned in juice
2 slices nimble malted wholegrain bread
2 slices nimble white bread
3 slices weight watchers sliced brown danish
2 slices allison wholemeal bread (400g loaf)
57g of any wholemeal bread (except pitta bread)
300g serving baxters favourites scotch vegetable soup
400g can heinz spring vegetable soup
295g can weight watchers country vegetable soup

To backtrack your Healthy A Options are your cheese and dairy and include
(and this is applicable to both days)
350ml skimmed milk
250ml semi skimmed milk
175ml whole milk
28g cheddar
28g edam
42g mozzarella
42g reduced fat chedder
You are supposed to have one or two healthy extra a days each day so for example you could have an allowance of 250ml semi skimmed milk and 28g cheddar cheese (my typical healthy a choices).
GREEN
Green days would suit you if you are a pasta / rice / potato person i.e.
You enjoy eating:
Lots of jacket spuds
Pasta based dishes (don’t eat pasta so cant suggest any recipes!)
cous cous
polenta
rice
noodles
Again you can supplement the above with all your veggies. Refer to the superfree food I list I gave you for some suggestions.
To make meals more interesting, when following the green day, you can use your healthy extras to have some meat so for example your healthy extra on a green day would include
85g beef or steak
85g lamb
113g chicken
113g turkey
85g bacon
85g gammon
142g prawns
28g tiger nuts
6 walnut halves
57g houmous
6 brazil nuts shelled and whole
On a green day you can have an extra healthy extra option of cheese (using one of your healthy extra b options) as follows
28g of any of the following
brie
caerphilly
cheddar
cheshire
danish blue
derby
list continues.....
or 42g
camembert
cheese spead
feta full fat soft cheese
mozzarellla

These extra cheese options are NOT APPLICABLE if you are following a red day.
I.e. you can only have an healthy extra b option of cheese if you are following a green day.
Again some of the healthy extras are applicable to both days and I repeat the list from above: -
HEALTHY EXTRAS applicable to whichever day you are following I.e red or green include
28g Alpen (any variety) and 1 Oat/scan bran (scan bran is sold at SW classes)
Hi fi bar (any flavour) (only available at slimming world class)
28g Nestle Shredded wheat honey nut/triple berry
28g Ready brek original and 1 ryvita dark rye/original/sesame
2 weetabix
1 weetabix and 3 ryvita high fibre crackerbread
5 oat / scan bran (avaialble from slimming world classes)
30g bag ryvita minis – any variety
227g apple baked and 113g blackberries stewed
227g apple, baked and 1 level tbsp mincemeat
71g apricots ready to eat
397g fruit cocktail canned in juice
2 slices nimble malted wholegrain bread
2 slices nimble white bread
3 slices weight watchers sliced brown danish
2 slices allison wholemeal bread (400g loaf)
57g of any wholemeal bread (except pitta bread)
300g serving baxters favourites scotch vegetable soup
400g can heinz spring vegetable soup
295g can weight watchers country vegetable soup
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE that the Healthy Extras change all the time. My book is two years old so for example the soups may no longer be a Healthy Extra B option.
The latest healthy extras can be checked on the Slimming World website and I can show you if you wish.
One superfree food I havent mentioned is QUORN
Most quorn products although not all are SUPERFREE I.e. free whichever day you are following.
Those quorn products which are SUPERFREE include quorn mince and quorn pieces. So for example, if you were having a green day, you could make a chilli/spag bol/ enjoying as much pasta/spagetti as you wanted (which you couldn't do on a red day), substituting quorn mince for (real lean beef mince) and making a home made tomato sauce.
I have never really cooked with QUORN – some people say it is tasteless – other people say it tastes fine and some cook half quorn and half real mince. Some even eat quorn (only) and say that if they hadn't been told, they wouldn't have known it wasn't proper mince!
Slimmer World's best friends include
mullerlight yogurts,
quark
eggs
fry light cooking spray

Refer to your superfree list for the drinks you can have and which you can consume freely. They include
coffee (using milk from your healthy extra a allowance)
tea (using milk from your healthy extra a allowance)
still mineral water / tap water
herbal teas
diet coke/diet lemonade
diet tonic – slimline tonic
avoid sugar and instead use artificial sweeteners either in tablet form or drop form. To add flavour to your food – use (and these are all super free)
soy sauce
tabasco
vinegar (all varieties)
worcestershire sauce

EVERYTHING other than free food and your healthy extras needs to be synned so for example your coffee drinks (3 syns per satchet)
kit kat 2 finger 5.5 syns
30g ready brek 5.5 syns
red wine 142ml 5.0 syns
red wine 175 ml 6.0 syns
25ml of spirits (such as vodka,gin, bacardi, whisky) 2.5 syns
275ml bottle becks 5 syns
jumbo cornish pasty 240g each 32.0 syns
doughnut jam average each 12.5 syns
bourbon biscuit 3.5 syns
lemon puff 3.5 syns
coleslaw 100g (standard coleslaw) 6.5 syns
golden wonder nik naks 34g bag 9.5 sns
monster munch 25g bag 6 syns
Some items have a different syn value according to whether you are following a red or green day for example 28g frozen peas would be 1 syn on a red day but free on green. Your food op book will detail all of this.


Similarly lasagne sheets, dried, each 2.5 syns on red but free on green.
Do you see where I am coming from?


FINALLY just to confuse things further you have the extra easy plan. Now this is a new plan only very recently introduced so I am still learning about it!
To summarise


Healthy Extra A Options Allowed
Healthy Extra B Options allowed
Advantages
Disadvantages
Comments (formating gone nuts here!)


Red
Two A options allowed
Two B options allowed
Can eat as much meat as you want
have two healthy extras
Limited/not allowed rice, pasta unless you syn it




potato allowed but one potatoe (227g baked jacket) is one healthy extra b option


Green
Two A options allowed
Two B options allowed
Can munch as much potato as you want / pasta / noodles / rice etc


can have quorn as a meat substitute
Cant have much meat – have to count it as an healthy extra option


Extra Easy
One A option allowed only
One B option allowed only
Can mix both red and green foods I.e. potatoes and lean meat in the same meal
Limited on your healthy extras.




SO SIMPLY
if you are following EXTRA EASY


then eat as many foods as you wish from the free food list for RED and the free food list for GREEN and allow yourself one dairy option I.e. either 250ml milk or 28g cheese I.e. one Hi fi bar or perhaps 28g of cereal or 2 slices of nimble bread.


I will find some more menus for you....
hope the above makes sense
any questions, let me know.
Also if you want me to share my daily menus with you, let me know

[angie loves veg]

I think, for the sake of the 'shiny new thread'... we should keep this one 'on' topic, and keep the (understandable) chat about the situation to the other one....

So, with only two more wake ups til christmas (says my 6 year old ) today I am having a frige/freezer clearing mix2max day

B yogurt and fruit as ever

tea - milk from HA, advent choc (2 or 3 syns)

L green - jacket spuds, beans for OH and DD, sweetcorn and big side salad for me. Cheese on top (HA).

D red - dover sole (yay! cool freezer find!), broccoli, alcoholic syns..

hmmm... no B choices in todays pan. will have to look at the book and choose something. Might even have 'double cheese on my jacket )

[Skint_Catt]

Flat Eric - don't worry and just enjoy it - at least you made the effort to try and make something different for yourself!

[dixie06]

Now I may be being a bit thick here but.....I've just been reading the new SW mag with the new plan thinking oh yes very nice, easy peasy but how come you can have potatoes and peas on what appears to be an orginal day??!! :confused: And chilli with rice AND potato and bacon salad :confused: :confused:

[angie loves veg]

Hi Dixie -

we *think* that discussing this new, 'extra easy' plan may have had the last thread closed down, so I can't imagine people will be very chatty about it here (for the moment!)... but the full details will be released in classes over the next few weeks.

Don't forget though, that you CAN have potatoes and peas on a red day (as HEB's), chilli with rice (syns) on red, and potato and bacon (HEB) salad on green.

In the new year, we will find out how the new plan allows us to have all the above freely.

When they tell me how I can have my cake AND et it, then I will be very interested!!!!

[retiredlady]

Originally Posted by dixie06

Now I may be being a bit thick here but.....I've just been reading the new SW mag with the new plan thinking oh yes very nice, easy peasy but how come you can have potatoes and peas on what appears to be an orginal day??!! :confused: And chilli with rice AND potato and bacon salad :confused: :confused:

We were told about it in class today and it is in the new magazine also so I should imagine we soon will be able to talk about it?

Yes that is correct. On the new plan all foods that are free on green and are free on red are free together. So you can have cottage pie with mashed potato - free, spagetti bolognaise - free, fish and rice with peas - free, bacon eggs and beans - free!

You get only 1 healthy xtra A and only 1 healthy extra B - which should be no hardship now cause most of the things other than your cereals and breads and oil are now free foods.

Any syns you have are counted at the lower amount - ie if something is 5 syns on green but 30 syns on red - you would count it as 5 syns!

Sounds brilliant doesn't it?

Marion

[angie loves veg]

We were told about it in class today and it is in the new magazine also so I should imagine we can now talk about it?

We can not be sure this is true.

What has happened is that our beloved thread was closed (deleted). Another forum had the same thing happen.

My (limited) understanding is whilst we might logically think we can discuss it, SW are trying to keep the details of this plan under wraps, probably until the new year.

To date - Every time the plan is explained by someone (who knows legitimately, and believes it OK to mention), the accompanying thread is closed.

Personally I wouldn't risk this thread closing too.

[retiredlady]

Originally Posted by angie loves veg

We can not be sure this is true.

What has happened is that our beloved thread was closed (deleted). Another forum had the same thing happen.

My (limited) understanding is whilst we might logically think we can discuss it, SW are trying to keep the details of this plan under wraps, probably until the new year.

To date - Every time the plan is explained by someone (who knows legitimately, and believes it OK to mention), the accompanying thread is closed.

Personally I wouldn't risk this thread closing too.

Thanks Angie - I will edit my post if you think that is why the last one got shut down Although it all feels a little Big Brotherish now!:rolleyes: - the walls have ears and all that!

Love
Marion

[mikeyc123]

surely this is wrong well has flaws anyway.....this meens u cud have jaket potato n steak etc all day and then hav a chiken kebb for red day sins....i think iwill be using the higher sin amount tbh because a kebab on a green day has always been high sins surely it must be still high now

[Pennylane]

If the new plan is in the latest mag (and I bought mine at last SW weigh-in) which is also out in the shops, I can't see how it's suddenly all top secret.

Maybe that's not the reason the thread was closed.:confused:

[angie loves veg]

Yes - no-one really knows, but neither of the board guides did it, which might make one think that it was done by a 'higher source'

I am still looking forward to hearing about it officially in class in the new year.

[Burlesque Babe]

I have just tried to find the DFW Slimming World thread and that seems to have gone also.

[JenC]

Do you think the old thread will be reinstated when the new plan is made official? There is so much useful info in there that I refer to. I went to my subscribed threads and it had gone. I was paranoid that I had been deleted from subscribing for lurking and not having much to contribute!

[mikeyc123]

cud sum1 pretty pretty pretty pleaqse pm me da password dis week

[ikkle87]

Mikey sorry but we can't give passwords out you need to contact your consultant and they can give it to you x