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    • noonesperfect
    • By noonesperfect 12th Dec 08, 11:08 AM
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    Boilerjuice
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    • 12th Dec 08, 11:08 AM
    Boilerjuice 12th Dec 08 at 11:08 AM
    I rang around a few companies this morning having got an instant quote of 39.75p per litre +vat. The company I've ordered from not only beat Boilerjuice but also another local company. The cheapest quote I got today was 35.43p. 10p a litre less than last time, so it's going the right way!!

    The operator ask me if I wanted to arrange an account and pay monthly (i.e our average annual cost split over 10 months). On the face of it it seems like a good idea, we fill up twice a year in December and late March usually, so it's alot of money to find so close together. I'm just afraid they might not be quite so competitive once they've got my money though!!!! :rolleyes:

    Has anyone else got experience of how oil distributors charge once they're assured of your dosh??
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    • noonesperfect
    • By noonesperfect 21st Dec 08, 11:52 AM
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    • 21st Dec 08, 11:52 AM
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    • 21st Dec 08, 11:52 AM
    Just bumping

    Has anyone else got experience of how oil distributors charge once they're assured of your dosh?? Are they less willing to be competitive?
    • milliemonster
    • By milliemonster 23rd Dec 08, 12:45 PM
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    • 23rd Dec 08, 12:45 PM
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    • 23rd Dec 08, 12:45 PM
    None I'm afraid but why don't you split the annual amount you spend on average on oil by 12 and put that money away each month instead?, this is what I am intending to do once I have had a year in this house and know what we spend!
  • alanfp
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    • 9th Feb 09, 12:36 PM
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    • 9th Feb 09, 12:36 PM
    "why don't you split the annual amount you spend on average on oil by 12 and put that money away each month instead?"

    Couldn't agree more. What would be the advantage in lending your money to a supplier for no interest, to an organisation not protected by financial compensation rules etc. If they go bust, you're stuffed.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 11th Feb 09, 8:31 PM
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    • 11th Feb 09, 8:31 PM
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    • 11th Feb 09, 8:31 PM
    I used Boilerjuice afew years ago and it was great. It isn't any more! I now use it to get a benchmark price on-line and then phone round and invariable get lower quotes from local suppliers.
    • Smamfer
    • By Smamfer 20th Feb 09, 3:22 PM
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    • 20th Feb 09, 3:22 PM
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    • 20th Feb 09, 3:22 PM
    right im about to place my first order of oil as been told told when i move in to new place on sat the tank is nearly empty!

    Boiler juice have actually come up cheapest and ive rang round about 10 diff companies in and around south lincolnshire.

    Todays price is 35.85 a litre min 500 with bj
    Highest i got quoted was 37.86
    ~~Gonna Buy Me A Shrimp Farm Bubba~~
    • Smamfer
    • By Smamfer 4th Mar 09, 2:04 PM
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    • 4th Mar 09, 2:04 PM
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    • 4th Mar 09, 2:04 PM
    Just adding here.... boiler juice quote is not always what you pay, if there is people local to you that have also ordered your price will come down.

    Ours just came down £45 due to others ordering it
    ~~Gonna Buy Me A Shrimp Farm Bubba~~
  • moonrakerz
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    • 21st Jul 09, 9:38 AM
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    • 21st Jul 09, 9:38 AM
    I have had an email yesterday from my oil supplier mentioning a more environmentally friendly kerosene?, apparently it makes your boiler more efficient does anyone know anything about it and if so, is it worth making the switch from standard to this?
    Originally posted by Noseyparker
    Yes, it is even better if you add very finely shredded ten pounds notes to the oil !
  • bene
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    • 9th Jan 11, 7:35 PM
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    • 9th Jan 11, 7:35 PM
    Just adding here.... boiler juice quote is not always what you pay, if there is people local to you that have also ordered your price will come down.

    Ours just came down £45 due to others ordering it
    Originally posted by Smamfer
    The first time we ordered from BJ the price came down by £45 - tht was a year ago, and it has never saved us more than a few pence even though all our neighbours are alerted, and order at the same time. How strange is that>?
    Now there is a scam about bj driving up prices: well the previous poster has it right, save the amount each month so you have the cash to pay for oil - at the best price *when* you need it..
  • Bucephalas69
    BoilerJuice fleeces OAP's!
    see todays Sunday times for an expose on this rip-off company.
    The site boilerjuice.com is NOT a comparison site as it claims as it's owned by DCC energy who are charging more than double for oil fuel!
  • djhowes
    Not sure Boilerjuice can be trusted?
    Having read the article in the Sunday Times today, one can only imagine that Boilerjuice trading will go through the floor until things are clarified.
    As a Boilerjuice customer who uses their monthly saving scheme, I have taken the precaution of stopping further payments and have requested a refund of the credit held by them - don't want to lose any of my money if they go to the wall! Moreover, I have sent Boilerjuice the following email text:
    'According to the Sunday Times, Boilerjuice is owned by DCC, a company that owns many oil delivery companies. Is this true, and if it is, how can you guarantee that the prices you agree with suppliers are in your customer's best interests and not your owner's profit margin?
    Until DCC sells Boilerjuice, and when you can categorically confirm true independence, I will not order through Boilerjuice.'
    I'll repost if I get a reply.
    • gladtobegrey
    • By gladtobegrey 17th Jan 11, 10:06 AM
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    DCC, BoilerJuice and my recent experience
    According to their website, DCC owns and distributes oil under the following brand names:
    • Texaco
    • CPL
    • O.J. Williams
    • Carlton Fuels
    • Emo Oil
    • Scottish Fuels
    • Shell

    ... and BoilerJuice,of course.

    I have purchased from BoilerJuice a couple of times in the past, but NEVER without also ringing round a number (now 15) of local suppliers for quotes, some big names, some locally-owned companies, as well. When it was first established it didn't give the best prices in my area, then for a while it was competitive, and now it isn't again. Takes 15 minutes to ring round and make a purchase, and saves quite a bit (almost £55 on 500 litres this time round). I would not opt for the 'convenience' of a regular top-up service, as you're completely at the company's mercy on price.

    Our recent 500 litre oil order, delivered this morning, was the minimum purchase possible, in the hope that the price falls again as the weather improves and the backlog reduces. The quotes ranged from 73.4ppl down to 62.98ppl, for 20-day delivery, with BoilerJuice's best price (debit card, i.e. no CC premium) just on the wrong side of the mid-point of the range at 69.0ppl. Prices for immediate delivery were well over 100ppl.

    Interestingly, two DCC companies were in the top three for best price - CPL and O.J. Williams. CPL gave the very best price, and they readily undercut everyone else, including their DCC brethren.
    Last edited by gladtobegrey; 17-01-2011 at 10:13 AM.
  • ulsterman
    DCC actually trade under around 40 different brands the length and breadth of the UK, including:

    Alderdice Fuels
    Anmer Oils
    Bates & Hunt
    Baxter Johnston
    Bayford Oils
    W H Bowes
    Black Cat Fuels
    Boiler Juice
    Brett Fuels
    Bernard Brogan
    Carlton Fuel
    Cawoods Oil
    Charter Fuels
    CPL Petroleum
    DCC Energy
    Emo Oil
    Energy NI
    W Eves
    Flogas
    FuelOilDirect.co.uk
    Fuel Services
    GB Oils
    Grampian Fuels
    Gulf
    Haven Fuels
    Imperial
    Jackson Fuels
    James D Johnson
    Martindale Fuels
    Noble Fuels
    Owen Fuels
    F Peart
    Scottish Fuels
    Southern Counties Fuels
    Speed Fuel Oils
    Suffolk County Fuels
    Team Flitwick
    Townson
    Town & Country Fuels
    TT Fuels
    UK Fuels
    OJ Williams

    As an oil heating consumer, what worries me every bit as much as DCC's dominance in the marketplace, is their competitors' apparent willingness to freely share pricing information with the dominant player in the market, through price comparison websites such as Boilerjuice.co.uk and Fueloildirect.co.uk which are of course owned by DCC.

    As someone who previously has worked in sales, it makes me wonder why any company would wish to share prices with its principal competitor??!!

    Regards

    John
    Last edited by ulsterman; 17-01-2011 at 11:39 AM.
    • jones830
    • By jones830 28th Jan 11, 9:45 AM
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    Can't log in to Boilerjuice site at 09:30
  • misterbean
    My daughter has found thefuelline.com worked out the cheapest earlier this week for hers. They say they are not owned by any oil company.
    Oil prices dropped over 4p a litre in just a week of checking and she paid fifty something
    Last edited by misterbean; 12-05-2011 at 8:57 AM.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 18th May 11, 10:10 PM
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    There's only one rule: shop around. Use ALL the online comparison/bulk-buy sites AND phone local companies.
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