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    • Kimitatsu
    • By Kimitatsu 19th Jul 08, 2:19 PM
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    • 19th Jul 08, 2:19 PM
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    • 19th Jul 08, 2:19 PM
    Hi

    I have started a new thread for you as you should get more responses this way.

    Someone will be along to help shortly
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  • JohnCGibbs
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    • 19th Jul 08, 2:52 PM
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    • 19th Jul 08, 2:52 PM
    Many thanks Kimatatsu being a newbie I'm not sure how all this works yet?
    • Donedoingdebt
    • By Donedoingdebt 19th Jul 08, 5:24 PM
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    • 19th Jul 08, 5:24 PM
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    • 19th Jul 08, 5:24 PM
    CSA liability will cease after his 19th birthday, not the first Monday of that month, although you will have to make a normal payment in October as child support is paid 1 month in arrears.
    The first Monday of the month rule applies to school/college courses that are completed before the child reaches 19.
    Last edited by Donedoingdebt; 19-07-2008 at 5:27 PM.
    Donedoingdebt Lightbulb moment January 2000. Debt at highest approx £102,000. Debt now (October 2009 - absolutely fork all!!!)
    CSA case closed on 02/09/10
  • JohnCGibbs
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    • 31st Jul 08, 7:50 PM
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    • 31st Jul 08, 7:50 PM
    Many thanks...I have writtain to the CSA regarding the subject, this was more than 10 days ago, and as expected, still not had a response or reply.

    But as I understand it , my son would have finished his further education at the start of this school holiday, so the ffirst monday should then apply, then August should be the last payment...
    • Kimitatsu
    • By Kimitatsu 1st Aug 08, 7:50 AM
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    • 1st Aug 08, 7:50 AM
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    • 1st Aug 08, 7:50 AM
    I think you will find that for school leavers your liability ends on the first Monday in September after he has left school.

    10 days? If you are lucky they will just about have opened the letter! I was told that it can take 14 days from receipt of the letter to arrive on someones desk as the post is not opened onsite but rather at a seperate venue away from the staff :confused:

    I have found that if you want to get something through to them quickly either email it or fax it to them - only takes 3 days then.........

    Also bear in mind that CSA payments (I think - someone will correct me if I am wrong) run in arrears, so your last payment may be October.
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    • moike
    • By moike 2nd Aug 08, 9:54 PM
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    • 2nd Aug 08, 9:54 PM
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    • 2nd Aug 08, 9:54 PM
    Has anyone got anylinks to the CSA site that confirms all this?
    I've been trawling through all the PDF's but can't find any info on this. As I don't go through the CSA myself (we have a voluntary arrangements but the same as the CSA levels ) so am unsure of the termination dates.
    Regards
  • doelani
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    • 3rd Aug 08, 10:42 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 08, 10:42 AM
    Sorry do not have a link to CSA site giving the info but I know that CSA responsibilty stops when Child benefit stops which is detailed here

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/16-or-over.htm

    My 18 year old finished school in June and her child benefit stopped in July because she was working more than 24hours per week. We did know she would not be going back to further education. Once I inofrmed CB I also informed CSA.
    TOTAL 44 weeks lose. 6st 9.5lb
    • moike
    • By moike 3rd Aug 08, 4:14 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 08, 4:14 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 08, 4:14 PM
    Thanks for the reply, eventually managed to find the right page here
    Regards
  • JohnCGibbs
    Thanks everyone for the input, paying in arrears? according to the print out of money paid to the CSA it goes like this..
    28/07/08 Maintenance charge - debit £315.99....credit balance 315.99
    30/07/08 Payment received- thank you debit Credit £315.99 balance 0.00 suggests to me that becuase I pay at the end of the month, then that money pays for that month, have I got it wrong?
  • Momamot
    You have got it right, CSA maintenance payments are always paid in arrears, for example the charge on the 28/07 was the maintenance for the month of July.

    With regards the end date for Child maintenance there seems to be some confusion in the other treads with that of child benefit (which is a seperate entity from that of the CSA).

    The child support charges end on the childs 19th birthday, providing that they are not in full time work or claiming benefits in their own right in that case they would stopped earlier.

    If your child's birthday is in september you should have one final payment at the end of september for the period 01/09/08 up to the childs birthday (providing that you are not paying off any outstanding arrears)
  • JohnCGibbs
    Thanks Momamot...sounds about right. It's a case of wait and see now!
  • kink
    how would yu know cb stopped?
    my hubby doesnt know where his son lives so how could he find out if cb stopped? - highly unlikely his ex will vounteer this info to csa! would he have to ring csa and ask them to chase it?
  • frugallass
    kink

    the CSA can find out about Child Benefit Claims (well, this is what CSA Belfast told me the other day anyway) - speak to your caseworker who should be able to advise you further
  • doelani
    kink

    the CSA can find out about Child Benefit Claims (well, this is what CSA Belfast told me the other day anyway) - speak to your caseworker who should be able to advise you further
    Originally posted by frugallass
    I agree, your husband needs to phone CSA and get them to check with the PWC if she is still claiming , although they will be able to check.

    I got a cal from them in July ( the day after my daughter offically left school) to say they had been "informed" ( by ex ) that she had left school and was in full time exployment and I was still claiming CB which they had checked before ringing me.

    He had rang them before I cancelled the claim , got the call at 10.30 on a monday and I was still in bed lol
    TOTAL 44 weeks lose. 6st 9.5lb
  • kink
    thanks
    thanks for replies, will get him to do that, just hope it doesnt provoke a reassement.
  • JohnCGibbs
    When does Child Maintenace Stop?
    I finally got the official version from the CSA via the phone.....


    If a child who is 16 yrs., goes onto further education, at the time reaches 18 yrs. and it is expected to achieve exam results to then go onto University then payments stop on the 1st. Monday of the 19th. birthday. However, should the child not achieve the qualifications required to enter into University but has to re-study to then re-sit the exams needed to go on with the further education, then payments will stop on the 19th. birthday.
    • I,M SAD
    • By I,M SAD 16th Aug 08, 9:36 PM
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    Please I am being stupid I know,but whathe difference between the 2 scenarios you gave?My ex partner has a child of 19 yrs on the 7th of August,he is saying she is in uni,then working,then part time college,then unemployed,I am genuinely unsure what is the real scenario ,I hav,nt asked because he keeps telling me something different,however should she be still in csa assessment?I don,t want to ask for a new assessment unless I have some facts with csa obligations.
  • kelloggs36
    If child is now 19 then she should be taken out of the assessment regardless of what she is doing as the maximum time for child support purposes, is 19th birthday (except for arrears). Otherwise, if she is currently unemployed and still 18 and intending to go to university then it would stop on the first Monday in September.
    • I,M SAD
    • By I,M SAD 17th Aug 08, 2:24 PM
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    Sorry for jumping on the thread but do csa automatically adjust the assessment when a child reaches 19yrs or should you inform them.Also what happens with a maintenance order,I am confused as my ex partner has one in place but he is stating the maintenance order is to last until oldest child is 24 yrs old.Is that normal and will csa allow that order until that age.?
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