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skye_ · 27 July 2017 at 10:47AM

Does anyone have a percentage of positive outcomes for pip mandatory reconsiderations? Trying to decide whether it's worth my bother! Thanks

Muttleythefrog · 27 July 2017 at 12:07PM

I don't have figures at hand... some do succeed but chances aren't probably as good as at appeal tribunal where perhaps half have joy. So many a claimant will imagine the MR to be a necessary step to enabling that appeal while having healthy consideration that with good argument, clever challenge and possibly new evidence that they can persuade another DWP Decision Maker to take a fresh look to useful effect.

poppy12345 · 27 July 2017 at 12:50PM

I don't have the actual figures either but most MR's remain the same. Very few people manage to get the decision changed at this stage.

Alice_Holt · 27 July 2017 at 4:17PM

80% of DWP MR's remain unchanged.
However, at tribunal 65% of PIP appeals succeed (having been refused at MR stage).

skye_ · 31 July 2017 at 8:42AM

Hi, so how do I go about doing a MR? Can I just phone? I don't have any evidence so to speak but I had a nearly 2 hour assessment and the points were clearly covered by myself so I'm a bit taken back why I didn't get the points.

Also things on the report like 2 points for using the toilet!? She asked if I can use the toilet and I said yes no problem though they still gave me 2 points for this.

and.. If you as for a MR are you asking them to look at the whole claim again or just the points you're asking them to look at?

Thanks!

Diary · 31 July 2017 at 11:23AM

skye_ wrote: »

Hi, so how do I go about doing a MR? Can I just phone? I don't have any evidence so to speak but I had a nearly 2 hour assessment and the points were clearly covered by myself so I'm a bit taken back why I didn't get the points.

Also things on the report like 2 points for using the toilet!? She asked if I can use the toilet and I said yes no problem though they still gave me 2 points for this.

and.. If you as for a MR are you asking them to look at the whole claim again or just the points you're asking them to look at?

Thanks!

You can phone but I would strongly advise you to write keeping a copy. Keep the letter fairly simple to read but stating all the facts.

When you ask for MR they look at the whole award again not just those points you disagree with.

poppy12345 · 31 July 2017 at 2:47PM

skye_ wrote: »

Hi, so how do I go about doing a MR? Can I just phone? I don't have any evidence so to speak but I had a nearly 2 hour assessment and the points were clearly covered by myself so I'm a bit taken back why I didn't get the points.

Also things on the report like 2 points for using the toilet!? She asked if I can use the toilet and I said yes no problem though they still gave me 2 points for this.

and.. If you as for a MR are you asking them to look at the whole claim again or just the points you're asking them to look at?

Thanks!

Strongly advice you put it in writing pointing out where you think you should score those points. If you can get help with this from CAB i'd advice you to do so. You only have 1 month from the date of the decision. Yes, they look at the whole thing again. Most MR's come back to same so be prepared to take it to Tribunal. You really should try to get some evidence because if you've be refused without it having some will help! especially with the Tribunal which you'll most likely get as far as that. Evidence to prove that those descriptors apply to you.

50Twuncle · 31 July 2017 at 4:36PM

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/576641/pip-official-statistics-dla-to-pip-reassessment-outcomes-october-2016.ods
For the latest stats showing what DWP really think of PIP claimants !!

Alice_Holt · 31 July 2017 at 4:57PM

MR pro-forma:
https://www.leicester.gov.uk/media/178163/mandatory-reconsideration-request.pdf

PIP points, activities & descriptors:
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-points-system
How these should be intrepreted:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/547146/pip-assessment-guide.pdf
Page 86 on

PIP appeals info:
http://www.advicenow.org.uk/guides/how-win-pip-appeal
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/appeals/mandatory-reconsideration/

skye_ · 31 July 2017 at 7:24PM

Any ideas why I got the toilet points lol? I said I didn't have any problems at all using it?

poppy12345 · 31 July 2017 at 10:13PM

skye_ wrote: »

Any ideas why I got the toilet points lol? I said I didn't have any problems at all using it?

No idea. Just goes to prove that they never listen!

Mr

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