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Indigo Appeal Rejection Railway

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Afternoon,

It appears I have messed up! In essence, I had a monthly parking permit for an Indigo managed railway carpark but did not display the permit as for weeks I had done so [by accident!] without a ticket, but one day they decided to ticket me.

Without reading the forum I appealed giving a copy of my permit and admitting to being the driver, providing my address etc [doh!]. I did this thinking common sense would prevail as I had a permit! However my appeal was rejected.

It now appears I cannot appeal to POPLA as it was at a railway station [despite saying I can on the back of the PCN]. I have since seen on this forum Indigo are no longer requesting drivers details from the DVLA [but I have openly given these to them on appeal!] and I have also noticed that all the indigo parking conditions signs at the station have been removed [on purpose or vandalised?] but I did not mention this in my appeal!

In essence, any independent assessor would deem this ticket unfair however I no longer have an appeal process and Indigo have my details that I gave them on appeal. Should I pay the reduced ticket or...?

Thanks for your help!
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  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    ok , now sit back and see if the railway company take you to court , they have 6 mths to do it

    we were discussing this here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5783103

    please dont come back telling us about debt collector letters , only return if you get a MCOL from the parking co , or a summons from magistrates court , please read that thread
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  • KeithP
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    Do not pay anything.

    So they have the driver's details... so what?

    There is no way that they can do anything with that information.
    You will not go to court.

    Have a read of post #1 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread, in particular, look for the answer to this question:

    Q - ''My windscreen Notice is a 'PENALTY' from a Railway car park, issued by a private firm (Indigo), what do I do?''
  • fisherjim
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    And why would you consider paying a scam charge, when you have paid for parking to the TOC (who would be the ones responsible for court proceedings) anyway
  • bobthebuilder21
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    Thank you for the replies! I had read the FAQ about Indigo not getting details from the DVLA anymore for railway tickets but wasn't sure how applicable that was when I gave my details on appeal.

    One other query the car is a company car [therefore not registered to me] does this affect this at all? I read somewhere about the advisable process being different with company cars? Cheers
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,730 Forumite
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    Well as you have given your details, they can only send letters to you. So you did the right thing.
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  • pappa_golf
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    funny situation company car , normally you are told to appeal , to keep hire co out of loop

    a: they already have your name/address

    b; they are not getting info from the dvlA


    if you are thinking of writing to the BPA , read the otyher post for there answer

    you have to "appeal" to the magistrates , direct info from Indigos ATA , so do that , wait untill you are summoned and appeal to the magistrate


    there are a couple of things that will make this not happen

    1: not displaying ticket is not a bylaw offence

    2: indigo are not going to work (hard? and then hand it to a TOC to spend money only for it to go to the crown
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  • bobthebuilder21
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    Pappa golf thanks for the reply, slightly confused by your reply though. What does ATA stand for? Are you saying I should appeal to the magistrates or just do nothing based on the knowledge they cannot summon me for not displaying a ticket? Thanks!
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 41,354 Forumite
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    Are you saying I should appeal to the magistrates
    No, PG, tongue in cheek, is quoting the nonsense the BPA, Indigo’s Accredited Trade Association (ATA), spewed out when cornered about the fact that there was no longer an independent appeals process for such charges.

    The Mags Court is not where someone goes to ‘appeal’! Far from it.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • pappa_golf
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    Approved trade assoc , there are 2 the BPA and the IPC (or whatever they are called this week)


    indigo are a member of the BPA , who have decided not to handle appeals anymore on bylaw land

    this is now a funny situation , as any parking co that is a member of a ATA MUST offer an independent appeal!

    as state3d the BPA are scratching there heads and giving out stupid info "you must appeal to the court" !!!!!!!!


    you CANNOT appeal to the magistrates court , YOU are summoned (or NOT)

    I suspect things are happening in the background and as in a scottish BPA case they offered IPC who are able to handle scottish ones


    to expand:

    you do NOTHING now , you will get debt collection letters by the score , several different companies , but check names on footers! (same) , ONLY come back here if you get a proper letter before court , or this goes to mags (it will not)


    as in john lennon airport / VCS , this company will not kill its golden goose by being ridiculed in the CC

    they are asking for £100 , NOT to tell the train Co , who will not proceed as

    1: waste of money

    2: no such bylaw as fail to display



    indigo = smoke and mirrors
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Pappa golf thanks for the reply, slightly confused by your reply though. What does ATA stand for? Are you saying I should appeal to the magistrates or just do nothing based on the knowledge they cannot summon me for not displaying a ticket? Thanks!

    The bit in bold.

    Relax!


    :)
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