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Tesco to get blue badge info from dvla

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  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    HO87 wrote: »

    Oh, but they are. They are listening. Yeah, to their shareholders who want their investment back smart-ish. So they are now aiming at the soft targets to have their pockets picked in addition to the rest of the sheep who think they are really saving by buying a BOGOF.

    Shameful.

    Wonder who will be the first of the big boys to go bust ?
  • vrbarreto
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    Oh this is good... Can't wait for the first attempt to take this to court... Sounds like the sort of rubbish that BW legal would suggest. Anyway Blue Badges are issued by the local council are they not? How on earth would these details get onto the DVLA database? Also for example my mother who cannot walk well has a blue badge but no car... Either myself, wife, sister or brother in law will take her to the supermarket so she can shop.
  • Guys_Dad
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    vrbarreto wrote: »
    Also for example my mother who cannot walk well has a blue badge but no car... Either myself, wife, sister or brother in law will take her to the supermarket so she can shop.

    Have you remembered to SORN her? :rotfl::rotfl:
  • esmerobbo
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    Surely it is a car that is not displaying a badge that any request to the DVLA would be made for keepers details.

    Why would they want the details of a vehicle parked with a badge, or the details of a badge holder?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 7 October 2016 at 4:17PM
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    esmerobbo wrote: »
    Surely it is a car that is not displaying a badge that any request to the DVLA would be made for keepers details.

    Why would they want the details of a vehicle parked with a badge, or the details of a badge holder?

    Yep I think you've nailed it, despite the incoherent way it was written by Tesco PR.

    So they let Highview rip people off at £100 a pop for alleged overstays but have realised that in fact, that's not 'parking management' of bays. And to address that they've got their own trolley-collectors looking up VRNs of people they assume are not disabled, merely because they can't immediately see evidence of that in the empty car. Wonder if these staff are fully Equality Act trained then and realise about the diversity of need that can mean a non-Blue Badge displaying driver CAN be eligible to park there?

    What will be interesting is if Highview issue overstay PCNs to cars driven by disabled people who were displaying Blue Badges, regardless of the fact that the trolley-lads and lasses have 'inspected' these vehicles on a daily basis and seen the Blue Badges.

    So, while they are about it, wouldn't an obvious and easily achieved 'reasonable adjustment' be for those staff to do something useful like add to that hand-held as they go along the row, a list of those VRNs they believe are entitled to more time/were disabled? Adding those to an immediate store 'white list' so that these drivers are not hounded by Highview? After all, the handheld thingy is in their hands and they are looking at the Blue Badges so it would be inexcusable not to press a few buttons to exempt those cars as they see them.

    And the elephant in the room then, is if they are paying staff to bay-manage...WHY will they still 'need' Highview at all?!
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  • Big_Graeme
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    pogofish wrote: »
    in Scotland, their actions could well come within the remit of specific hate-crime legislation.

    In Scotland any of their invoices are not worth the paper they are printed on.
    Fruitcake wrote: »
    As already mentioned, there are many people with disabilities that don't have a BB, but are eligible to use a disabled bay.

    Sorry but that isn't right. To use an official disabled bay you need a blue badge there is no leaway, private land can make any fair conditions they like as part of the contract between you and the landowner/Parking co.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Big_Graeme wrote: »
    Sorry but that isn't right....
    ...private land can make any fair conditions they like as part of the contract between you and the landowner/Parking co.
    They can't if they breach the Equality Act by withholding a provision from a disabled person who needs it.

    There was a shopkeeper in the news last year who thought he could tell someone with Tourettes to get out and stop making noises. Comments in the newspaper thought the shopkeeper could decide his own rules because it was his shop. Nope. AFAIK the shopkeeper was sued.

    Rules cannot be made up nor contracts offered which break laws.
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  • HO87
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    Big_Graeme wrote: »
    Sorry but that isn't right. To use an official disabled bay you need a blue badge there is no leaway, private land can make any fair conditions they like as part of the contract between you and the landowner/Parking co.
    Ah, but the bays we are discussing are not "official" BB bays they are parking bays designated for disabled use by supermarkets/their parking enforcers. They have no "official" standing.

    A supermarket may indeed apply fair conditions but in using the word "fair" you have inadvertently, I suspect, hit upon the problem. Companies have a number of obligations to users of their premises in respect of the Equality Act and as we all know not every disabled person can obtain a BB. By limiting the use of these bays to a mere subset of disabled people generally - a good number of whom are as entitled to "reasonable adjustments" as BB holders except that they do not meet the narrow criteria required for the issue of a BB require.

    From this perspective supermarkets (and other establishments) could be argued to be being discriminatory. That is apart from the fact that the use of BB's as the sole determinant for use of disabled bays is lazy and unimaginative it is as much about attempting to convey some form of official sanction than anything else.

    Time was when you had to apply for a sticker to put in your windscreen to use parent and toddler spaces (and they were/are widely abused). It can't be beyond the wit of man to formulate a simple process to obtain a sticker to use the disabled spaces - whether by the disabled person or one of their carers.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

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  • Big_Graeme
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    They can't if they breach the Equality Act by withholding a provision from a disabled person who needs it.

    They would say the standard and accepted way of seeing if a person is in need of the bay is by use of the blue badge scheme.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Big_Graeme wrote: »
    They would say the standard and accepted way of seeing if a person is in need of the bay is by use of the blue badge scheme.
    On-street (Council) yes, under statute.

    On private land it's discriminatory. Any policy which causes a disabled person to have a provision they should be entitled to, denied or restricted or limited, is unenforceable (Equality Act 2010 says so, unless the trader can justify it...pretty unlikely).
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