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Tenants not moving out

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  • moromir wrote: »
    The next time someone moans that this forum is full of landlord huggers I'm going to direct them to this thread.

    Not entirely sure why there is so much vitriol being directed at the OP, a clearly inexperienced landlord who has come here asking for help.

    They're being told things they don't fully understand by the agent and the tenant, they have the stress of a significant other stationed abroad and appear to have been left to arrange an international relocation.

    Yes landlording is a business, yes she needs to learn things and learn them quickly in order to sort this out but cut her some slack.

    The baying for blood on this thread is pretty gross.

    The OP clearly has a tenant who wants to play the system to get a council property at the expense of the OP, yes legally the tenant is totally entitled to do that, but that doesn't make it right or any less upsetting for the OP.

    How about some more practical advice for the OP rather than going for their throat and telling them they should be ashamed of themselves?

    This was my point earlier , by trying to play the system they will end up worse off , most councils have no property to offer this is why as a private landlord I get calls every week from the council asking if I have anything available , if they play this game they may never be able to rent privatley again and may end up in a B&B . a very risky strategy
  • rachhh
    rachhh Posts: 345 Forumite
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    OP, I feel sorry for you, I can't believe how patronising and rude some of the posters on here are being.
    I hope you manage to resolve your situation, and I'm grateful to your husband for his service and to you for accommodating his service.
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  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    utter twaddle, removal fees, deposit on next property, referencing, etc etc, best part of £2000 on an average property, then you might need things fitting at the next place and so on

    Ridiculous. I've never spent anything near that amount on moving. And paying the new deposit is hardly a long term financial issue given that you'll probably get the old one back within a month.
  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
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    Hawth0rn wrote: »

    THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LEAVE AT THE END OF THE TENANCY AS THEY KNOW THE SYSTEM AND THEY WANT A COUNCIL HOUSE. THEY HAVE TOLD THE LETTING AGENT.
    No need to shout.

    You let your house under the same system that the tenants rent it. So you have just as much opportunity to know the system as they do.

    A fact is the minimum period of a tenancy is 6 months and Parliament decided that the default would be that tenancies would roll indefinitely past the fixed term. Another fact is that a Section 21 is not of itself an order for the tenants to leave.

    The waters are often muddied by agents who represent the situation differently. Your tenants may have been told by the agent that you would not require the property for a long time. You may also have been told by the agent that you could get it back at 6 months without a problem. Your agent may have represented tenancies as being governed by the written contract - they are not, they are governed by Statute Law for the basic framework of the terms and conditions which affect you now. The written contract only defines options within the Statutory framework and governs other issues not covered by statute.

    Your problem may well be your agent, not your tenants.
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • Care to name any users you would class thus or are you too weak to be open in your views??

    Cheers!

    All you have to do is read some of the posts on this topic to see who I'm talking about.

    Guest101 for a start.

    Anyway, I've reported the right people so that'll be that.

    Glad the law is changing soon giving the Landlord's more protection :)
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    Mixedwrestling, I wish you hadn't thanked my post 45. I find your posts 46 and 47 quite distasteful. While we may disagree with other posters, there is no need to call them names.
  • chris_m
    chris_m Posts: 8,250 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Anyway, I've reported the right people so that'll be that.

    So have I - but it won't be the same that you have. They didn't make the abusive posts 46 & 47.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,672 Forumite
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    edited 21 September 2013 at 9:30AM
    All you have to do is read some of the posts on this topic to see who I'm talking about.

    Guest101 for a start.

    Anyway, I've reported the right people so that'll be that.

    Glad the law is changing soon giving the Landlord's more protection :)

    So you're happy with my comments?

    Landlords already have the whip hand, particularly under Thatcher's s21 HA 1988 - which OP seems to be trying to use without the basic 101 understanding & IMHO don't need more power.

    BTW I agree some of your comments are inexcusably offensive.

    Cheers!
  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    ValHaller wrote: »
    A fact is the minimum period of a tenancy is 6 months and Parliament decided that the default would be that tenancies would roll indefinitely past the fixed term. Another fact is that a Section 21 is not of itself an order for the tenants to leave.


    Your problem may well be your agent, not your tenants.

    I slightly disagree, a tenancy agreement can be for as short a period as you wish, but the law says you cannot regain the property until after the first six months are finished. That's why landlords usually only offer a six month agreement.

    I agree that the agent may be the problem though.
  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    Werdnal wrote: »
    Remember, the S21 does not have a "move out date" and does not end the tenancy. It has an expiry date, from which you can apply for court, and the tenants will hold on for council housing until the last possible moment, and nothing you can do about it, so stop stressing ...

    As Werdnal says.................

    It's not unknown for councils to actually instruct tenants to wait for the bailiff before they will supply accommodation, very often a bailiff and a council housing officer will turn up at the same time, the bailiff to gain possession and the housing officer to hand over shiny new keys.
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